Stage III Concept cables and power cords could be interesting. May not be easy to sell them later, though. Same with Echole brand.
That's additional reason of why it would be very interesting to hear Magico with big powerful Boulders and Gryphons. I think, the Soulution is 'masculine enough' but not that big for such demanding 'feminine' speakers.
And we are going to get a surprise amplification in about two weeks. I am intrigued.
Checked it out. The impression remains. For my taste and to my ear D'Agostino is closer to how it should be than Gryphon. I don't listen to big orchestra, so perhaps with that kind of music Gryphon would have an advantage, maybe even more so with Gryphon big speakers. Flemming Rasmussen himself said that he liked large scale music.
Flemming Rasmussen designed his integrateds for fun and to introduce audiophiles to Gryphon sound. They are inexpensive great pieces.
Listen to his separates especially top of the line. Even better with Gryphon reference speakers. Just not with cd player, with serious analogue source.
By the way, transistor amps should not sound like tube amps.
I listened to your comparison of D'Agostino and Gryphon power amps with D'Agostino preamp on youtube. It would've been better to compare full D'Agostino to full Gryphon set-up. As it was, to my ear D'Agostino was superior, great involving emotional sound. Gryphon might've been a bit more precise, not sure.
I watched a few more of your videos.
I did not like Luxman, either separates or the integrated. I did like Accuphase integrated, more correct and sophisticated sound than Luxman.
Again, this is youtube listening, so..
As they say, for my money, if I had this kind of money for this, I would go for Gryphon and D'Agostino. Diablo 300 appears to be the best value but I would go for D'Agostino if I could. Used Accuphase would make sense too.
There is something very special about D'Agostino sound.
Maybe it is youtube or maybe it is just me but I found Pass amps boring, and based only on your videos I would not even consider them. It's D'Agostino, Gryphon and Boulder.
It would be interesting to me to hear how they all would sound with bigger Kharma speakers. I know that Lamm sounds excellent with them, that's Kharma sounds excellent with Lamm.
Jay, I would like to thank you for the incredible work that you've been doing.
Just watched your videos, part one and two, comparing Boulder monoblocks with Gryphon Mephisto. First, I am not at all sure that Gryphon and Wilsons are a good match, Mephisto sounds different with big Gryphon speakers. Second, you compare stereo Gryphon to monoblock Boulder, that's not fair. And third, maybe something is not quite right with cabling, including power cord.
As you did it, Boulder is obviously better, closer to reality.
Gryphon is sleepy, has no resolution or pace and is doing some kind of 'tube like' sound engineering. It has no bite and doesn't draw into the music. It puts you at ease instead of engaging you.
I also have an impression, and not just of this comparison but anytime when I hear Mephisto in your system, that Gryphon imposes itself instead of leading the way and making the speakers sing. It tries to sing itself through the speakers. But still, I would pair Mephisto with Gryphon preamp and D'Agostino with D'Agostino preamp, and would play more with cables and cords to find the best possible match.
"Get rid" might've been a little harsh, I agree, I was just articulating the point.
Jay, we understand, just conveying some possible suggestions.
To return to your comparisons, after listening again, I can tell you that overall I still prefer Boulder preamp/amp to everything else. Not without flaws but it just sounds closer to reality to me, even if this reality is not perfect. Both Gryphon and D'Agostino make the reality sound 'nicer' than it is. Boulder combo is ruthless.
So it's Boulder - first place, D'Agostino - second place and Gryphon - third place. That's how it is for me.
Jay, what is the name of the first tune and of the performer in D'Agostino/Gryphon comparison ? I like the song.
To return to your Gryphon/Boulder/D'Agostino comparisons, most of us will never have such an impressive sound. I would also think that any of these power amps should sound just great on its own feet on the floor, not that it may not be improved. There are probably hundreds of various footers. I might try SRA or whatever it's called platforms, though.
As for my mentioning of tape deck, besides the vastly superior sound quality, one could eliminate preamp and run directly into power amps. As pure as it can get.
Again, I like Boulder, it shows all the negatives of the recordings, it shows everything there is to show. But it won't sell well, I guess.
Right, but I would guess macho Gryphon and soulful D'Agostino would appeal to more people than big Boulder.
Not to me. Studer A80 with Boulder amps and some speakers. I like your Wilsons enough. That would be quite a sound. Well, if you need digital capabilities too, just pass the signal through Studer.
jc4659, thank you. Very good song indeed.
I hope D'Agostino amps are coming my way. They romanticize things a little but are very impressive.
Just read Fremer's review of the Boulder amp. He said almost exactly what I heard. Spectacular amps. The only real kind of negative is that Boulder is a little dry. And he played analogue source too, not just digital.
Power cords more expensive than amps they are with ? At a totally different level I got $2k power cord on $2k amp. Yeah, I tried less expensive. No, wasn't good enough.
$99k pair power cords for Boulder monoblocks ? Well, could be interesting.
Interestingly, you thought that D'Agostino Momentum integrated sounded much better than Gryphon Diablo 300.
I heard some people preferred Diablo 300 to Gryphon lower level separates, not Mephisto. Some also stated that Diablo 120 sounded better to them than Diablo 300. In both cases they stressed musicality, whatever they meant by that.
I thought that big Boulders controlled the speakers better than Mephisto, but I wasn't in the room.
No, Jay, you win. And I never criticized you for bringing in top level stuff.
I understand the idea to experiment with top level preamp and various levels amps, and the other way around. But in this case I thought it was too far apart. Besides, Boulder and Pass have so different sound signatures, they don't compliment each other but contradict each other.