My Audio Research experience


To all you goners out there, here is my experience with Audio Research.

Approximately four years ago I purchased an AR Reference 75 power amp.  It was on special at the time and I bought if from a dealer in Brisbane, Australia.

I used the amp for the rear channels of my home theatre system which I only use occasionally because I travel a lot for work and I mainly listen to music.

One night I switched the amp on and a white flash and burning smell came from the amplifier and it didn’t power up.  I thought it may have been a tube, and because I had no spares, I reported the problem to my Brisbane dealer and via email to Audio Research.  A copy of the reply sent from AR on the 5th March 2016 follows:

'Thank you for choosing Audio Research and the REF75. I suspect you had an internal tube arc. The internal tube short can also take out a plate or screen resistor. So just replacing the tube will not fix this problem. The resistors also need to be replaced. You can confirm this by checking the bias for this tube. If the bias reads zero, a resistor is open.  This is an easy repair that our distributor in Australia can do.

The SE update for the REF75 comes with a complete new set of tubes including a new set of KT150s.  This is the only way it is sold. If you so choose, Our Australian distributor can also install this SE upgrade for you while the amp is in for repair.'

I then proceeded to order some more tubes to see if a replacement tube would fix the problem.

I ordered the following tubes:

2 x Electro-Harmonix 6H30Pi Gold with Matched Triodes (Balanced)

4 x KT150 Power Vacuum Tube - [Matching (10+ tubes)]

4 x KT120 Power Vacuum Tubes - [Matching (10+ tubes)]

When they arrived, I tried the new tubes but they didn’t fix the problem as the amplifier failed to switch on.  I then contacted my dealer and freighted the amplifier to Brisbane for repair.  This was done in June of last year.  I included all of the above tubes in the package in case they were needed.  I also would have liked the amp to be upgraded to SE status using the tubes supplied if possible.

In September/October last year I enquired about the status of the repair and before Christmas enquired again. After again emailing AR, I was contacted by the Australian Distributor who told me that the service agent in Brisbane had been trying to get parts for the wrong amplifier and that the amplifier would be transported to Melbourne for repair.  I asked them to get me a price for the upgrade using my tubes.

In January/February of this year, I was contacted by the Australian Distributor and had to supply proof of purchase because there was a dispute over whether the amplifier was in fact under warranty when the fault occurred.  I again asked about getting the upgrade using the supplied tubes which were still with the repair agent in Brisbane.  Eventually I was told that I could have the upgrade using AR tubes only, for the heavily discounted price of $3,000 Australian.  Nothing like gouging your customers!!!!!!  Especially when I could have bought a small car for the original cost of the amplifier in Australia.

I chose to just get the original amplifier repaired under warranty which I was told needed a new main circuit board.  This week my amplifier finally arrived back home after nearly 12 months away for a repair under warranty.  The original tubes have been put in a box with ‘Faulty Old Tubes,’ written on the box.  The tubes I sent with the amplifier have not been returned, and no replacement tubes have been included.

I am amazed that the initial fault destroyed six tubes, so I have asked how the Distributor tested the tubes to determine that they were faulty.  I am now left with an amplifier that doesn’t work and 10 expensive vacuum tubes missing somewhere in Australia.  I am also left with a conundrum, if when I finally get my tubes back and use them to ensure the amplifier works, what happens if it doesn’t.  Will AR then blame me for any fault that occurs on power up because I haven’t purchased tubes from them at their heavily marked up prices????

For me I will never touch another Audio Research product for as long as I reside on this planet.  I will be telling all my audiophile friends and putting this report on every forum that will publish it.  Best of luck for the future Audio Research and may you drown in your policy mess!!!

thazeldean

Showing 4 responses by tomcy6

If ARC is going to sell its products in Australia, they should make arrangements for repairs to be done in a reasonable amount of time (weeks, not months or years).  If they can't do that they shouldn't sell in Australia or other places where their products can't be repaired..

jea48, What exactly did the OP do that would cause ARC not to repair his amp and send it back? What did he do that would result in him losing ownership of the amp and the tubes that he sent along with it?

If someone in this process didn’t like him sending his own tubes, they knew his address, all they had to do was send them back and inform him that if he didn’t want to buy his tubes from ARC at greatly inflated prices, the amp would be repaired and returned without tubes. And people wonder why high-end gear isn’t more popular?

clearthink, Lighten up! What do you have against Carver? Have you had problems with a Carver company in the past? Please disclose the reason for your hostility toward Carver.

It’s no longer unusual for a high-end company to be sold. As fmalitz has pointed out, many big names have been sold multiple times.

I have not been offended by anything fmalitz has written here. He disclosed his stake in Carver and we can take whatever he says with that in mind.

I wish more manufacturers and dealers would post here.  They tend to know something about audio and can add valuable perspective to our discussions. Unfortunately, any who do are usually attacked by someone like you, so they don’t bother and we lose the benefit of their knowledge.

So please lighten up. With 14 posts to your name, it might be a good idea, to lurk for a while until you get a feel for what is helpful and what isn’t.
kalali, You realize you just did (i.e. make a hostile post to this thread) what you are criticizing others for doing?

I’ll go first. There is nothing particularly up with me, I was just advocating for letting manufacturers and dealers have a say as long as they disclose their affiliation with any equipment being discussed. I am listening to my not so uber system right now (Metheny/Mehldau Quartet, I highly recommend it). I don’t compare power cords.

Now your turn, please answer your own questions.