You will have to watch closely and wait a while to see a V8i in the classifieds. I have seen them once or twice over the past year. I had one home for audition that I returned after the 30 day period. I did not return it because it lacked quality; it did not have separate pre outs to connect a sub and you'd either have to go speaker level or connect through the pre /out main in which is a bad idea for the sonics of the integrated. Other than the subwoofer/pre out issue, I would still own it. It of course a powerful, massive (90 lbs), very smooth integrated with a nice midrange quality. It is also mandatory for best performance that you replace the stock preamp jumpers with higher quality ones. It does also take a lot of hours to break in 300+. The build quality is awesome. For only $1600 it has to be one of the best buys and best values in audio. I highly recommend that you at least give it a try. Ping of AAA-Audio is a consumate professional, a great customer service guy, and great person too. A big advantage here that you do not get with the majority of high end pieces is the ability to try before you buy. You have nothing to lose but the shipping cost if you decide to return it after 30 days. You can't say that about the A5. If I were you I'd pay the additional cost to buy it new and if you don't like it, then return it. It's worth a lot more than the $1600 retail price tag. I came close to buying an A5 once but did not pull the trigger so I have no experience with it. From what I've heard of the Musical Fidelity house sound, though, I not so sure it would be to my liking. I have however always been intrigued by their ultrahigh power integrateds like the KW500.
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