Music reference/ audio research / vpi


Looking for suggestions. Have a Music reference rm-200, and an audio research LS 16. Also have a VPI classic 4/proteus transfiguration. Wondering how the RM – 200 would match up with an audio research ref 6, an audio research ref 3 phono, And maybe Ariel acoustic 7t, or Devore gibbon X? Looking for suggestions. Live in the sticks with very little opportunity to audition much of anything!  While I love my audio research, sometimes I wish there was just a bit more tubey richness.  The Gibbons are supposed to have a more organic sound I’m told…? The phono three should be more compatible with the transfiguration…My phono 5 is not compatible…Trying to develop a plan and go at this one piece at a time… Also wonder about the vac 300.1…? Would think the ref phono three should be my next purchase…?
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@tomic601, a cheap pc to try, just to see if it makes any audible difference, is the 10g MagicPower pc by Signal Cable, only 69 bucks for 3’. If your pal detects an improvement, he can then experiment with (perhaps more expensive) others. I use a Shunyata Copperhead (bought used for about a hundred more), which would no doubt amuse Roger Modjeski (he doesn’t "believe" in such nonsense ;-) .

I think I remember Roger saying at an in-store seminar at Brooks Berdan’s shop in the early 1990’s that, though people believe tube brands all have their own distinctive, unique sound characteristics (Telefunken, Amperex, Mullard, etc.), the "sound" of a tube is actually the consequence of it’s electronic performance, nothing more. Two tubes from different makers that measure basically the same will sound basically the same. In other words, there is no mystery involved in what makes a tube provide a certain quality of sound. Yes, different brands were build to somewhat different specs and with somewhat different materials, but it is their measurable behavior that is responsible for their sound quality. Tim de Paravicini (EAR-Yoshino) told me the British tube companies would trade tubes with each other when they ran low of a given model, putting their own brand name on the other maker’s tubes and selling them as their own. Tim said he favours old Mullards because they were the best made tubes.

I imagine there are plenty of Audiogoners who disagree. I know this sounds just like Julian Hirsch and Peter Aczel (after his epiphany) on the sound of amplifiers, but there is a difference. Roger is not a meters-only kind of old-school EE designer, he uses his very good ears to design very good sounding amps (and now direct-drive ESL speakers---the output of an amp’s tubes---no output transformer---are connected to the ESL stators---no input transformer). He also now makes low-wattage single-ended amps, as well as push-pull.

@fanotunes, I too had the ARC LS-16/RM-200 combination (though my RM-200 is a Mk.2), and replaced the ARC with an EAR 868L. Muchas betta. The EAR is a real tube pre-amp ;-).