Music is sound, sound can be music


It was hard to make a title that fit what I wanted to talk about. Reading the thread about the deleted Hip-hop/Rap thread was an interesting window on some of the mindset here (some of which was unfortunate and depressing too but that's the world we live in....). What struck me was the attitude that if it's not played on a traditional instrument it's not music, or it just "sucks" in some way.

First, many instruments today, lots of brass ones especially or guitars didn't exist until the last 100-200 years. Do they not make music?

But you have to learn to use it skillfully, so I read. Knowing how to read and write music surely qualifies one yes? Talented even, if your can write complex pieces?

Ok, then. 25 years ago I worked with early digital audio systems using sequencers and MIDI. My partner graduated with honors from Berklee college of music and was a composer. He wrote some amazing work without touching anything more than a mouse and keyboard. Was it music?

10 years later I worked with another person who did incredible work in sound collage and electronic music. They did use a controller that is essentially a piano keyboard but it only sends note data to the system. She could play wonderfully on a real piano but often used non-linear editing and manipulation to produce innovative soundscapes. Was it music?

There are other examples where people do all sorts of experimental things with sound and not a single traditional instrument is ever used. Is it art?

My point here is if you don't like something that's fine. It doesn't make you a bad, stupid, or ignorant person. Neither are you those things if you don't understand why people create things or how they choose to do it. Of course, you are free to say what you like, that's your right. But don't be surprised when you are considered ignorant and intolerant when all you have to say is negative and derogatory remarks.

Life is too short to spend energy on things you don't like. Move on past and participate in the things you enjoy and let others enjoy theirs. Or maybe open you mind and give something more than a cursory glance if curiosity gets you, explore, read, listen and learn. You may decide it really isn't for you, but then again you might.
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I really enjoy the positive aspects of the forums and try and avoid any of the trolls and egotists attempting to feed their egos through condescension. I like sharing the knowledge I had developed over the last fifty years and learning from others.There is so much positive about this pursuit and so much future possibilities it is wonderful.

I stayed away from the thread you were talking about. Don’t care to get involved. My interest in music has grown from Rock in the 60s and 70’s to, classical, jazz, electronic, and world. I attend the symphony regularly for ten years. I also have been really excited about the possibilities of new music... Imogen Heap headed in a great direction and scratched at a whole new world of electronic... once in a while I hear a bit that really goes into truly creative space. I love that. Actually I also loved Gil Evan’s Out of the Cool 1960... I love music that pushes the boundaries. I love The Art of Noice, helping break some of the connection with traditional instruments. There is definitely a whole world open to only the musicians creativity.