Most transparent power amp


Hi there,
i would love to hear what brand that you have experienced with transparent of sounding? The kind of transparent is similiar to solid state amp like Cello, Spectral, tube amp I would think is Counterpoint SA4.


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Showing 3 responses by atmasphere

@fsonicsmith, I think you are addressing me, not George since the quote is mine.

The DeVore is not a four ohm speaker; as far as their website is concerned, they don't make any. But it works best on your four-ohm taps. That is quite a bit different from the speaker actually being four ohms. It simply means that combination works best for you- and as you noticed, the speaker cable is a bit critical in the overall scheme of things.

Can you unequivocally state that using the 4 ohm taps on any tube amp, including my ARC Ref150se, ipso facto results in brightness and hardness?
Not- at all, and if you got the impression I said that, I didn't. What I did say is that the use of four ohm speakers results in higher distortion from any amp- and that the distortion is such that is perceived as brightness and hardness. There is a distinction here- you are not using a 4 ohm speaker.

Using the four ohm tap gives you the lowest output impedance available from the amp and for some reason that works. FWIW, usually you loose some bandwidth using the 4 ohm tap; IME its usually in the bottom octave.
Hey Ralph. Here's my chance to zero in now that you've chimed in. My experience has been that there's no free lunch. What is the compromise in implementing the ZEROs? It seems you would lose extension one way or another, no?
Because the ZERO does not have to block DC, and also because you need an amplifier that already has a low output impedance, the result is a very low turns ratio with low distributed capacitance. Translated that means it has a very wide bandwidth- wider than our amps (which is quite a bit different from the usual output transformer which is often the limiting factor in tube amplifier frequency response); about 2Hz to 2MHz!!

So, 'no', you don't loose any bandwidth at all. What you loose is a bit of voltage gain as the transformer steps down the voltage.

How it seems to work is if the ZERO creates sonic compromise, you probably don't need it.

I have never seen it as a band-aid as George puts it; prior to the ZERO we actually made a similar product called the Z-Music autoformer, which did pretty much the same thing (ours also allowed for one ohm operation, allowing Steven Stone in a TAS review 25 years ago to have a set of our MA-1s drive a set of Apogee Full Range loudspeakers with very convincing results to my ears).

The simple fact is that four ohms is not good for **any** amplifier made regardless of the technology, and this is easy to see in the amplifier's specifications. Distortion is always higher, and the distortion is of a type that is easily heard as brightness and hardness. This is why Steve McCormick sent a letter to Paul Speltz (who makes the ZERO) stating that his amps sound better driving 4 ohms through the ZERO rather than directly. The amp has lower distortion and you can hear it right away.

That's not a band-aid so much as its a fix for a problem; the problem being speakers that cause amps to make increased audible distortion.

This being high end audio and all, distortion **bad**, music **good**!
^^ FWIW we've had good luck with Sashas running our MA-1s. I think it might be helped by a set of ZEROs (www.zeroimpedance.com) but the amp didn't sound like there were any problems making bass despite the Sasha's rather low impedance in the bass region.

I can't speak for other OTLs out there. But since we don't run any feedback, it seems that our amp should have been a problem on that speaker. This leads me to believe that Wilson may have used a tube amp during the design phase of this speaker.