My understanding is that the "new" Garrard 301 is not that at all. The factory is now refurbishing the original 301s, including replacement of certain parts that they now are re-manufacturing. The ultimate plan is to increase the number of parts being manufactured to the point where wholly new tables can be built from scratch. The new Thorens 124 looks a lot like the original, but, it is a direct drive table, not an idler drive table.
I am familiar with the original Garrard 301 and 401 and the Thorens 124. When these are properly refurbished and maintained, they can sound very good--punchy, dynamic and lively. I have no idea if this is the result of the kind of drive mechanism employed or any other characteristic of the table and the particular arm being used, but, I've heard similarly lively sound from some belt-driven and direct drive tables that happen to use high-torque motors, so I do wonder if that contributes to this sound.
I own a belt-drive table with a spring suspension (Basis Debut with vacuum clamp and motor controller) that has a quite different sound--the table sounds less vivid, but the presentation is more "poised" and there is far less noise from the record grooves (the platter damps vibration imparted in the record by the act of playing the record). I like my table, but, if another listener thought it sounded "dead," compared to the likes of the 301 and 124, I can understand that judgment. Given the right system and preferences, the 301 and 124 can be world class tables and I certainly would not rule them out just because they are old and can be prone to some noise issues.
I am familiar with the original Garrard 301 and 401 and the Thorens 124. When these are properly refurbished and maintained, they can sound very good--punchy, dynamic and lively. I have no idea if this is the result of the kind of drive mechanism employed or any other characteristic of the table and the particular arm being used, but, I've heard similarly lively sound from some belt-driven and direct drive tables that happen to use high-torque motors, so I do wonder if that contributes to this sound.
I own a belt-drive table with a spring suspension (Basis Debut with vacuum clamp and motor controller) that has a quite different sound--the table sounds less vivid, but the presentation is more "poised" and there is far less noise from the record grooves (the platter damps vibration imparted in the record by the act of playing the record). I like my table, but, if another listener thought it sounded "dead," compared to the likes of the 301 and 124, I can understand that judgment. Given the right system and preferences, the 301 and 124 can be world class tables and I certainly would not rule them out just because they are old and can be prone to some noise issues.