Mods - Odds and Sods???


Hello.

As we all know, here on Audiogon, there has been an increasing number of "modded" components being offered. However, I am wondering about the effectiveness of these mods. Are we often paying more money for equipment that has been modded, but not EFFECTIVELY modded?

I think the trap is to assume that just because something has been modded, it has been improved. Wrong, Wrong, WRONG!

I will not get into the details here yet, because I would like to see how others feel about it.

I will say that I have experience with a product that I have seen an advertisement for, modded. I can tell you that the component has a design flaw from the factory SO egregious that my friend who modded one for himself to correct the situation, feels it had to be intentional. Now, I don't believe that, I don't think a manufacturer would "mess up" a product just so it doesn't outshine their more expensive ones. But, the modded product did not address the issue. In fact, the mod they performed costs much more and is FAR less effective than the mod my friend performed(which happens to be free, outside of the labor involved). And, that is the most telling thing. In my opinion, anyone who performs mods without correcting this problem is not someone I would want to give my money to.

And, I ask, are we now to the point that we are willing to shell out more of our hard earned money for products which do not live up to their hype?
trelja

Showing 1 response by ryanmh1

This is an interesting topic, really, because I've been doing quite a few modifications to tuners recently. Nothing terribly substantial really, but tuners are nice to do because the mods and alignment are both audible AND measurable in a very significant manner. As to manufacturers intentionally designing bad products: I have to wonder if this is true. I'll relate a case in point:

I just did a modification to a Magnum Dynalab FT-101A which was possibly three or four years old. The first thing I noticed was that the ceramic IF filters were types completely unsuited to high fidelity. A simple swap dropped THD from .2% to .03%, which is just a shocking amount without even a real circuit change. Even better, IM distortion dropped 20dB! This was also the only tuner I have ever seen without a channel separation adjustment, and as a result, the separation is over 20dB worse than most other tuners. So you have to wonder just how bad the engineering here is. Using different filters would cost the factory basically nothing.

They also used cheap electrolytic caps on the outputs (although there are spots on the board for the film caps used in the Etude, for which they charged an extra $500), which the customer wanted replaced with Black Gates. When I pulled the circuit board to replace them, I noticed bare traces on the board in a number of spots, a lot of white powdery oxidation, and some traces that had fallen right off the board, primarily in the ground plane. This unit looked pretty pristine, so I really can't explain that either.

So, there's one more example of poor engineering and construction to tack to the list, I suppose. Interesting topic. Has anyone else pulled an audiophile component apart and found things that just shouldn't be there?