MIT Love 'em or Hate 'em


Has anyone else noticed that audio stores that carry MIT think there is no better cable type and stores that don't carry MIT all think they are terrible. Is this sour grapes or is something else going on here?
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Asa, admirable analysis. A joy to read and not to fault as far as I can see. Old Krusty is good for something afterall. A question: Don't know Kuhn, but did Popper REALLY live up to what he preached there? Cheers,
Unsound, very nice and very true. You put it in a nutshell. It sure works like that for me. Cheers,
unclekrusty he da man...he sure knows what he's talking about, at least as far as my pair of ears go!
I've now read the entire thread and can well understand Maxgain's anger. I'd also lower my horns at Crusty's language, even though I would defend his rights for freedom of speech and the freedom to have his opinions. I've owned the gear he's mentioned and I like it and I run Spectral 360s which are very highband, right up to where the bats hear and over and that's why MIT wires make sense because of their high pass filtering action. As a combination and with stators they have never failed to amaze the cognoscienti and although I am a deeply a vinyl, tube and stator man, this SS combination, together with a Spectral pre commands my respect. Cheers,
Not quite true uncle K., MIT, as far as their wires for Spectral are concerned, does say what those boxes are for and also Spectral does in their literature....and yes they are highpass filters, because the Spectral stuff is so extremely wide band. At least that's what I think I know about it.
Zaike, you've got it, begosh. Are you with the CIA? It's him, all of him, including his muleheadedness and his rash temper. Ha!! Always thought, he couldn't be quite real, although I liked what he said about the CAT and the Defy 7, but then, as you so wisely point out, I belong to the same family of uncles. Why? The Brits used to have a saying that went: "Bob's your uncle", which was a polite way of suggesting that you're talking bullshit. We're one big familiy, obviously, only some know it and some not.(-;
To qualify the point that Krusty the Clown is possibly uncle squared, so to speak, comes from the fact, that Bruce Brisson (MIT) and Karen Sumner, who marketed the MIT stuff for him, split up in the eighties, if I recall right. It was then, that she started Transparent. Since then Bruce hasn't been asleep, nor have the folks at Transparent. Yes they have boxes, both, but they certainly are not alike and they don't sound alike. So I am quietly pondering for myself, as I am sawing one of the $12000 MIT boxes open, to see if there's gold inside, if one of Clown Krusty's uncles might not be named BOB.
Cheers,
LOL, will do ASA, thanks for your thoughts on P. Can't say much, know too little, but seems to make sense what you say. The musicality thread has yet to be born, too busy still writing up reports on all sorts of people to make some money to buy expensive cables and to eat.
Drubin, true. I've also lost people I considered interesting and sometimes as friends this way, but the gentleman in question had a manner, apart from peddling often halftruths and mere assumtions as were they cast in stone, which often was plainly an insult to the intelligence and savvyness of his peers here. The assumtions were hardly challenging, we've been through all that many times before, that, together with his bearing, and a kind of assuredness, where true knowledge in this field would have at least allowed a bit of doubt, were indeeed hard to bear. Some tried to get into serious conversation with him, even I liked some of what he had to say and posted accordingly, but basically he just repeated his mantra, enriched with quite a bit of sarcasm, which must been insulting to quite a few here. Frankly, it was the first time here on A. that I also thought "good riddance", because his criticisms were not particularly constructive, I found.
Yes ASA, again an analysis which everyone should read, it it is so to the point, I think. I'm so used to reactions like that of our dear uncle, that it did not particularly bother me. But then his reasoning within his system was already flawed and if he ever did percieve a small voice of doubt, it was -as usual in these cases - overridden by his gall, vented at those that contradicted him. I am for freedom of speach, but I get irritated when I smell fanaticism. I'd rather do without it, thankyou.
Clueless, right, but half truths as gospel and then again and again and not really picking up threads offered to start a conversation. Come now, you and I, at least I think so, state clearly when we feel a tad ..clueless. So lets not be trite and bullshit were it belongs, here...please (-:
And Pops yes, so true, its completely irrational, but then perhaps Krusty did have a point after all: It somehow does not seem right that 15k plus cables, which at that price point should supposedly just pass signal, without adding or subtracting, have arcane boxes, which, the legend goes, must necessarily colour the signal, twist it, "filter it". That these boxes possibly help to make the cable just what it should, pass the signal and as little else as possible, seems to cross nobody's mind. Besides MIT is closely linked with Spectral and you will get exactly the same heated reaction about that brand. It has to do with their marketing, I think. They have a very snobbish-nose turned up attitude, don't particularly spoil dealers and snub most of that crowd. It is understandable that they try to hit back and that gets desiminated all over the place. I've listened to people bashing Spectral and MIT, who never even heard them and I suppose that was basically part of my irritation about our good Uncle above, who was beating a dead horse ad nauseam as far as I was concerend...and that dear Clueless is no longer BS, that is simply a pain in the...neck.
Thanks Greg, If I read you right, we feel the same about the whole matter. Pity Krusty did not really want to talk.
6chac, Zurich is always closer to Damascus. You can come to Zurich and stay, but the road to Damascus has no end to its oxtrail (-:
I meant closer "than" not "to", not that it really matters,and no 6chac I don't blink, I stare with eyes wide open, which is a sign of bad breeding, but also that doesn't matter, when you're on to Damascus and the ox lets go right beneath its tail in front of you...who was it who whished me a nice wicked end again...? AW well, Monday is a new day.....and probably it was that end of the oxen which ASA had in mind....