Firstly Circelman, and the rest of us fine A-Gon Brothers,and Sisters, I'd like keeping this thread civil, and as well educational-beneficial to all.
Yip in Hong Kong is certainly a fine fellow to deal with, as I have, for the MintLP Protractor. A fine craftsman, and businessman I will say,and of course, all others will chime in, with agreement.
But, Yip is a 1/2 a world away, not exactly a convenient souce for my cleaning products.
There's too much variance to fully guarantee that "mr y" is correctly using another product to make a solid judgement about any cleaner being currently marketed today.
With some saying the L'Art Du Son, doesn't clean as well as so, and so, or Mo-Fi cleans better than brand Z, etx.
There's lots of proponents here of the Walker Prelude system, and they claim it is the best available. I have little doubt these gentleman don't know what they're talking about, and that Walker Prelude is a world class cleaning system, specifically designed for the finest analog playback systems.
Same with AIVS Products, these are both cutting edge products, and the variance, will of course be "how" you use them.
I do firmly, and personally belive, that the multi-step system will never be surpassed, nor improved upon, these systems make totally logical sense to me. And as others will agree, the rinsing step is very highly important to compliment any cleaning system, whether multi-step, or a single step cleaner.
Time is a critical factor with a cleaner. Yip says 30 seconds. Why 30 seconds? Is this long enough with his cleaner? It might be, and this might mean also, that 2 minutes is too long, thus enabling damaging effect to take place with his cleaners? This I don't of course know, I've never used MintLP cleaning products.
And then there's the quaetion, can we treat each, and every one of our records the same? Can I trust Yip's cleaner to be just as effective with a 30 second soak, on one of my mint, well cared for Mo-Fi's, as I can with a $1 thrift find? I'm kind of thinking no, that I cannot expect any cleaner to be totally effective at doing it's job under these varying sets of circumstances. Mark