Mint LP provides Stevenson Alignment


First, I happen to own and like a Mint LP protractor, but over the course of time it has become obvious to me that no one up to now has pointed out that it is providing the Stevenson alignment.  I have even read several self appointed  experts here argue vehemently that either Lofgren or Baerwald alignments are far superior to Stevenson, but then go on to equally strongly advocate the use of the Mint LP.  If ever there were an argument that alignment is somewhat over emphasized in our hobby, this is perhaps a good example of the truth of that thought.  Recently I bought a Feickert protractor, which is very easy to use and have tried all the alignments using it.  I can hear differences, but not always, certainly not on every track of every record, and honestly they are all good.  So don't get you pants in a bunch over this trivial issue.
billstevenson

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Dear @downunder : I think that you as @billstevenson  want to win this discussion and both of you along those japanese tonearms that use ST alignment are way wrong and not because I say that or because I " only listens to specs, not MUSIC ".

No, boths of you are wrong because in reality did not READ what other gentlemans posted as what @hdm and me posted or what VPI designer posted somewhere. Let me explain why you just don't read the posts or for whatever reasons just don't understand it/misunderstood it:


"""  logic dictates Yip used Stevenson. the VPI alignment jig, Harry says its designed to have the least distortion in the last 3rd of the LP so similar to Stevenson. As we all know the last 3rd is the hardest part of any LP to track and play, hence why having the least distortion in alignment curves imo is the most important aspect..."""

hdm posted that he owns four MINTLP protractors: 2 Baerwald, one Löfgren B and one ST.

I posted a simple fact: ST HAS LOWER TRACKING DISTORTIONS IN THE LAST 3mm.  of a LP with recorded grooves in the last inner groove distance: 60 mm. where only a few LPs has it.

Where did you read about that 3rd last part of the grooved LP surface. ST advantage is only in the last 3mm.. Repeat: LAST 3mm.

Got it? or have to repeat again.

Btw, the VPI jig has nothing to do with ST alignment, the designer has not so lower knowledge levels on that regards.

R.
@downunder  : "  despite the BS about higher distortion figures. ""

as I said it: that's what you like it and was not me who used the BS expression. Every one has what his knoledge levels permit and what you have is exactly that. BS or not you can't do nothing against facts and you have no single fact that proves what you posted other than the BS: " That's what I like it ", this is real BS. Don't you think? where are your facts? where?

R.
@downunder : Perhaps not?, I have no doubt: do you? because is you who like it higher distortion levels in the 97% ! of the recorded grooves ! ! that you listen it and maybe not the 97% but 100% %.

Good for you ! !

R.
Dear @cleeds : This is not about who disagree or agree with me, this is not the issue and not my point.

Please let us know if you are using Stevenson alignment and after that let us know how many of the LPs you regulary listen to have those inner 3mm grooves. Because those are the issues from my post.

Btw, Stevenson alignment is absurd for the facts I pointed out: FACTS. From a total of recorded 86mm. St. has lower tracking distortion in 3mm. and in the other 83mm. recorded grooves higher tracking distortions. Don't you think that that alignment is absurd for say the least?

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/es/diccionario/ingles/absurd

Where are you seated?  Löfgren alignments or Stevenson.

R.



Dear @downunder : "  I have always found that the alignment that the manufacturer designed his tonearm with sounds best - Graham with the unique Graham jig, VPI with his unique alignment and jig - Japanese tonearms in gerneral - Stevenson. """

those japanese tonearms that use Stevenson did it only by ignorance of those designers of what I posted here to bimasta.

R.
Dear @bimasta : and only for your records, against Löfgren A/B Stevenson has lower tracking distortions in the last 3mm. only and this is ONLY if the LP has recorded grooves between 60-63 mm.  must inner grooves.

Stevenson alignment is absurd if not " stupid " alignment and totally useless for 12" LPs.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.


Dearb @flatblackround  : """  Overhang as best I can estimate.  Eyeball cantilever alignment at two null points...."""

From where do you determine where exactly position have those null points ( each one. ), only by eyeball.

" Overhang as best I can estimate ": again : how do you determine the correct stylus tip overhang? which your reference? or from where came to you that " estimate " about.

Could put you some " ligth " for us that always are willing to learn?

Thank's in advance.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.