Micro Seiki, or TW AC-1


I'm trying to decide between Micro Seiki RX 5000 and TW AC-1.
They are approx. the same price used (about $10K)
Both are belt drive.
Unfortunately, I don't have a first hand experience with either of the tables.
You can see my current set-up in my system page.
The reason, I want to make a change from DD TT to belt drive is just to try a different approach.
Also, I have a feeling, that the bass would be one of the areas, where MS and TW might have an edge over my current DD Technics SP-10 MkII
My endeavor into analog is fairly new, so I'm not sure what my final choice in analog would be, unless I try it in my own system.
What I'm really interested in is the following:
Sonic differences b/w MS, TW and Technics SP-10 MkII
Reliability
Service availability.
maril555

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maril555
i have a TWAC3 and a Miro Seiki RX1500, i bought the 1500 new in the '80's. the TW i bought 3 years ago.
different tables of course. the sonic difference is the speed and detail that the TW displays. it has authority that the 1500 does not have. the 5000 may do this better than the 1500, but my issue with them is the metal platter. the TW has a polymer platter that is warmer and faster that metal.
i would compare the micros with TT Weights tables. they are very well made, look nice and sound ok. the european tables have the same high quality machining, but their performance is head and shoulders above the tables that are just machined well, lacking the finesse in sonics that the europeans strive for. i read somewhere that the designer of the TW's tried 150 different materials for the belt alone, just to get the sonic signature that he was looking for. you know that back in the '80's when micros were made, that didn't happen!
i have never had any issues with my micro in the 30 years of ownership. if you want a true reference table, go for the TW.
too bad these threads always seem to get personal. someone has to quote someone else and then bash or "poppycock" what was said.

maril555, i do own both tables in question. they are side by side on my rack, not at a friend's or at a show or somewhere else. the fact is, the TW is a better table. i would not recommend spending $10k on the RX5000. you would be farther ahead with a raven 1 and the matching 10.5 arm.
speaking of arms, i did have the micro max 282 on the RX1500. sold it as soon as i bought an old breuer 5C. the breuer cost me $1500 used and i sold the mint max 282 for $3700. it was dull and lifeless compared to the breuer, using the same cartridge. so don't get caught up in the micro pricing. you're paying for the collect-ability there also.
the micros are great tables, please don't get me wrong. some of the models are just overpriced for their performance.
maril555
fwiw, i use a living voice mystic mat over the integral copper TW mat. i also use the mystic mat over a copper mat on the 1500 platter. i find the TW sounds great with a furutech record weight and the 1500 prefers the bdr weight.