Metrum octave or Wyred 4 sound coax vs usb


hi my friends.
you very help me with what to buy i think i go with Wyerd 4 sound, in my country i have option to buy W4S-dac1 in budget of 1000$ instead of 1500$ price (bcz is it israel is very expensive country lol).
but on the other hand i get recommendation from here in audiogon on the dac of metrum octave that sounded very good with kind of my speakers (devore nines) and leben (amp) someone here work with metrum octave mini nos dac with similar components system to mine (shindo and nines).
but i read that metrum dac need very good usb to spdif convert like audiophilo that coast 1000$ so i like to know
if i dont use convert usb to spdif and connected pc-->coax-->metrum dac .is it sound better then wyred 4 sound dac1 or not. or i must use spdif to usb convert to enjoy the metrum octave dac (and is it must be expensive usb spdif convert like audiophilo)?
sorry if im not understood in simple words what will be good buy for me : Wyred 4 Sound dac1 in my country 1000$, or to buy Metrum octave mini nos dac from audiogon in 1000$ + OR NOT with usb to spdif convert ???

please i wanna know what to buy .:-)
thanks for all waiting for response
bolero32

Showing 3 responses by kzhtoo

Hi Bill, I read your Metrum thread in an Australian forum and would like to know if you have experience with the following.
1) How does Empirical Synchro-mesh compare to AP-2, sound quality wise? I understand one is USB converter and the other is pure reclocker.
2) I just recently bought Octave but thinking of trying out a couple of more dacs. What are your impressions on EE DAC+ with Dexa opamp and NAD M51? I'll be using them with Synchro-mesh. Will either one of them be quite a step above Octave?

Hi OP, sorry to hi-jack the thread. For your question, I'd say go with Octave and Audiophilio2. I own a similar product like AP2 called Synchro-mesh mentioned above. IMHO, cleaning up jitter at the source is as important as choosing the dac. It will be well worth the investment and may save more $ down the road. You have to try to believe it.
Hi Bolero, to be honest, I haven't tried Octave without Synchro-mesh (reclocker like AP2). My impression on Synchro-mesh is with my old Electrocompaniet ECD-1 dac. If you can wait, let me give a proper burn-in on Octave (it will hit 400 hours by this coming weekend), I will try feeding it direct with optical out from AppleTV (16/48) and report back. I fully expect it to be inferior, but I do not know how much.

To be honest though, if you have a less than ideal transport (PC, AppleTV, Sonos, SBT) with a sub $1k-2k dac, products like Off-ramp, AP2, Synchro-mesh will surely take the sonic performance to another level, regardless of how good jitter rejection is claimed to be by the dac manufacturer. Metrum doesn't have an internal clock. In 6moon review of Synchro-mesh, it does say the improvement is not noticeable with PS Audio PWD2, which has a very good internal clock.