McIntosh C-22 Re-tube


I am very fortunate to have a hand-me-down vintage C-22 with its classic partner MC-240. I have extensively tested these units with each other, and each with other partnering preamps and amps, and have come to the conclusion that my C-22 just does not sound good. Both have been 'refurbished' (lightly) by Audio Classics. So they work. The MC240 has been re-tubed with Russian tubes, and generally sounds pretty good in stand-alone tests. The tubes in the C-22 are Chinese, I think, standard with the Audio Classics "tune-up." Question is, is this a simple matter of buying better tubes for what I understand to be a great preamp, or is there some other variable I should have looked at within the preamp that could be causing it to sound lousy?
Partnering equipment in my sound tests were B&W 804 Diamond and Spendor FL-9 loudspeakers, Audio Research 100.2 amp, and Bel Canto Pre2 preamp. All components (to include loudspeakers) were tried with every permutation of equipment pairing. The C-22 continuously turned up as lacking.
jimmy2615
I have a McIntosh C11 (same as C22) that has been completely rebuilt/refurbished. I use vintage Telefunken long plate tubes and I get terrific sound. (I am driving an Audio Research Classic 60 amplifier to GR Research N2X speakers.) The phono section is not my favorite, but I think that is more due to the ancient RIAA components (which can't be replaced - needs to be slightly re-engineered) than the fault of the tubes. The line stage sounds very good.

All that said, I am curious to roll some new Electroharmonix and Gold Lions for a comparison between good vintage and good new tubes. I simply have not done so, yet.

I'm afraid I have no experience with modern Chinese tubes.