mcintosh & big $ interconnects


heres the deal, ive tried a ton of gear & i mean a ton & for me the mcintosh sound is it.

im having a real hard time hearing any differences when i try different interconnects,i'll avoid naming any particular brands ive tried but its always the same.

my last interconnect fiasco was with a pair of $300 cables against a pair of el'cheapo cables & i heard nothing, not a single difference.

im just finishing up a new system & i want to try new cables with it but im clueless as to which models work with mcintosh.

please reccomend some cables for the following rig.

mcintosh c2200 tube preamp

mcintosh mc500 amplifier

mcintosh mvp841 cd/dvd

mcintosh mvp831 cd/dvd

cary audio tube dac

mcintosh xrt 22 speakers

my budget will be in the $1500 to $2000 price range(used).

thans, mike.
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Rwwear, i suspect you are right, ive tried a few different interconnects & power cords & i couldnt hear squat! usually guys who cant hear a thing get their gear called unresolving or they have tin ears.

the bad thing is that i want to hear a difference even if its bad i still want to hear somthing,anything.

im gonna give fancy cables one last shot before i give up on it alltogether, i had many suggestions that were sent to me in private .

one things for sure if this time around i still dont notice anything im done with the whole idea for life no matter what.

thanks for all the suggestions everybody sent me in private & in the thread.

merry xmas, mike.
hi guys,the willingness to help here on audiogon sometimes amazes me! i have had alot of good suggestions about cables & wires that might sound good with my rig via email & here in the threads.

i also recieved a generous offer(which i gladly accepted) from a member to loan me some really nice speaker wires & interconnects that matched well with his system to demo in my rig, thanks!

this should prove to be interesting & fun,i have 2 cd players that i will be doing the demo with,mcintosh mvp831 & mcintosh mvp841 with exact model isolation devices under each player.

i will post my results in a few weeks.

mike.
ive done alot of blind testing the last few days & ive come to a verdict.

cables do make a difference,ive yet to hear a difference in speaker wires but with interconnects there is a difference.

i put the audioquest cables in the mvp831 cdp & the loaner cables ( acoustic zen ) in the mvp841 & the difference was very little but its there.

im off to listen some more,im excited about finally hearing somthing.
i have now come to a decision,there is differences in some cables but with my gear the differences are so small that i cant justify the cost for such a small difference.

im not even sure if there was any improvements but there was differences that were more like very fine adjustments of the tone controls.

i can however see where cables would make a much bigger impact on SET rigs or rigs where the preamp has no tone controls.

im real glad i had the chance to borrow some nice gear from a very thoughtful & generous member(thanks dave)but after the blind testing i think my cash could be better spent trying out different dac's.

mike.
Mmakshak,what is so special about these Oritek x2 cable's that would cause you to post about them in like 50 threads in the last 2 days?
proziob, i see your slumming with the mac guy's again.

when are you going to give us a peek at that world class system of your's that has gave you this wealth of know how,it's ok if you want to use a pic from your show room!

used buyer's are a pain in the ass aint they :(
Krellm7,you might be right about me not knowing how to listen,i listen to my rig for fun & not to pick apart tiny detail's.

i chose mac gear because i liked it & for no other reason,the same could be said about your choice in b&w speaker's,i found b&w to be a very shrill sounding speaker with zero life in it but you know what they say,different strokes!
Krellm7,you elite audio guy's kill me not to mention that your last statement really show's your youthfull arogance,i am really into this stuff! & i listen to mcintosh gear plus i picked it over krell,b&w,classe,sunfire,audio research,golden tube,dynaco,pass lab's,b&k,shanling & the list goes on & on.

i know the store that you say you worked at & it's no suprise they hate mac gear & knock it every chance they get their major line's are krell & b&w plus their is a mcintosh dealership 1 mile away on the same road as one of their store's.

btw,the very last time i was in that store looking at the krell gear the salesman snubbed his nose at me like i was wasting his time,before the day's end i ended up spending 7k at the mcintosh dealership 2 miles down the street.

with age you might gain some real wisdom,it's not cool to rip another guy's rig apart because it's not the gear you prefer,you might also realize with some more time in this hobby of our's that the same tech who is laughing at mac gear will surely turn against krell should he ever have to go to work for a dealer who sell's & service's mac gear,that's the name of the game,sale's!

quoting a salesman or his tech is without merit in my eye's as it all applies to sale's & the brand's carried at different store's.
KRELLM7.

what is your point(if any)you are all over the place with this anti mcintosh stance you've taken.

please explain your stake in all of this,you jump into a thread saying you dont like mac gear because you tried it & didnt like it,nobody fault's you for not liking mac gear but that isnt good enough so now you need to tell us about the store you worked at & all the cool stuff you learned there & then top it all off with telling us all about the tech guy at the store not liking mac either.

ok now none of that is still good enough so you feel the need to say that "nobody who is into hifi buy's mac" then tell us about all the other cool(audiophile approved) gear you have like it's some kind of pointer to your intelligence & that all mac owner's are not really into good sound but all the stuff you have is great.

your still off & running & making less sense than ever but instead of responding to anything said above now your going off on klipsch speaker's,dude dont you get it yet it's not about what you or i prefer it's about what sound's good to other guy's,you can say all the goofy crap you want & quote all the dealer's & tech guy's you know till the cow's come home but if we all liked the same stuff we would all be drinking the same beer & porking the same girl :)

this is starting to make me feel like im 14 year's old,you stink,no you stink,well you stink worse,well you smell like cheese,so!
KRELLM7,'I never posted nobody who is into hifi buy's mac that was someone else'wow is there a mouse in your pocket.

here is direct a quote from one of your post's in this thread.

"There is no one who is really into this stuff that buy's mcintosh"

now you say that I just dont want to hear the truth,what truth are you talking about,is it that we all prefer different sounding gear,for reference sake this is not the only thread that you are posting negative comment's in about your dislike of mac gear on a daily basis so i ask you once again,what is your stake in all of this.

in the other thread you are posting in the question was why do no audio enthusiasts use mcintosh gear.

you are the exact same kind of person that i was refering to in my answer to the question in that thread,the kind of guy who like's to quote dealer's & tech guru's & love's to repeat what they heard & read,also the kind of guy who love's to use catch phrase's like"you just dont know how to listen" as if you were the golden eared type,imo guy's like you are everything that's wrong with this hobby all rolled up in one,arrogant,elitest,smug,one sided snob's who believe that they have found the truth in what is the best sounding gear & lash out at all other's who dont talk the talk with them.

as the link's on your web site so proudly show & also your constant comment's in other thread's about how you are in the business you have worked or still work for a big high end krell & b&w dealer,BIG DEAL,i can see where you learned how to be that way too,as i have posted before in this thread i have been to either the store you work at or one of their other store's & was treated with the exact same kind of arrogant snobbery & elitist attitude that you so often display here where you fault other's for not joining your little click.

you run down judy426 in a thread for doing the exact same thing in b&w thread's that you have now started doing your own self in mcintosh thread's but atleast judy post's his/her thought's then leaves it alone but not you,you wont stop & keep comming back with more worthless dribble about dealer this & tech guy that & look at all my gear so i must know more than anybody else.

what's next graph's & chart's or more about how all of your dealer & tech guru buddie's dont like mac gear,the only truth's that there are in high end audio are that 99% of all the gear is way over priced & that we all like different sounding gear.

so you dont forget,what is your stake in all of this anti mac drool?