mbl - is there a problem?


For a while now I've been planning on purchasing the new Magnepan 20.7's when they become available.
However I've always been intrigued by the idea of the MBL's - partly because they are so pretty and partly because it would be nice to have a speaker with a larger sweet spot.(I've owned and listened to Maggies for about 35 years but have never had the opportunity to hear the MBL's)
Since I've already purchased mongo electronics to power my new Maggies I think they would likely also power the MBL's.
And with the new discounts on the MBL's, they become more price competitive with the Maggies.
So I was thinking of flying somewhere to actually hear the MBL's.
But the website for MBL was disconcerting. Partly is is because the discounts are so large. Partly it is because they say that and warranty work now has to be arranged from Germany. As an experiment I tried to see what to do if I had an MBL speaker that needed to work and what would I do and I did not find an easy answer.
I have a fear of purchasing an expensive set of speakers and being unable to fix a problem.
From everything I've read on Audiogon these seem like wonderful speakers and maybe I should buy a cheap airplane ticket to where I can hear them. But I worry about the service. Maybe I'm just better off purchasing speakers from Magnepan - this company must be so succesful that even if the whole town was destroyed by a large meteor somebody else would pick it up.
Does anybody know if MBL is a safe speaker to purchase?
nottop

Showing 8 responses by dev

Yes MBL speakers are a safe speaker to purchase!

What model of speaker are you actually referring to?

MBL 101E's

Huge discounts, possibly when dealers were being dropped and unloading theirs.

Reliability, I am not aware of anyone having issues to date and I communicate with many owners and I have owned mine for a few years now.

Like any speaker if you have an issue and they are large will cost you if you send directly to the manufacture, personally if something happens thats the only place I would want to send mine anyways.

The crating is tops, for my model anyways. Shipping wouldn't be all that bad if you work with the manufacture. They ship all over the word and get great rates.

It really is going to come down to a personal preference, I owned Magie 20.1's years ago and they are very nice but no way in comparison, I prefer the 101E's by far.

Most if not all have only heard MBL's set-up in not so ideal situations, that being at shows playing way too loud and with solid state electronics or at the most in showrooms so comments made above to me are not relavent and did not see the OP asking such.

My speakers are way more engaging than my Maggies,I owned the Maggies for years, did I say they are a great speaker? but sorry no way in the same league as the MBL's and I have owned both.

When I read such statements in relation to sound of MBL's tells me only one thing.

Haven't heard a proper set-up in a real world situation or possibly you just don't like them which is okay.

In the end it's all about music, so do enjoy!

Albert you are a dealer for Megalines right?

Hi Albert,

thanks for clarification but I thought I recalled you mentioning such in a discusion of your specific Dali speakers you own.

What's NBL? Most likly a error on your part as I have done many times in pushing of the wrong key and suppose to be MBL right.

I wish they would allow us to edit.

You mention you have heard in private "systems" and dozen shows; shows as mentiond and you know are far from ideal but you mention listening in "private systems".

"Systems" meaning more than one, I'm very curious please share some more information, who's systems were these and how long ago? Were they when you were that JBL rep that you made mention of many years ago and before I was into HiFi, Ha! Ha!

What was the associated electronics because what you wrote above saying "The dozen or so times I've listened to the MBL it never connected to me musically." totally contradicts my own exsperience so something must have been wronge.

I can fully appreciate it's your own opinion but most defiantly not their characteristcs so others reading specifically the OP who is possibly interested needs to read another members opinion who has actually owned the Maggies mentioned and continues to own MBL's, obviously the OP needs to listen to make up their own mind.

but none of this was apart of the OP's question and getting of topic but due to you saying such I feel it's important to offer another opinion.

Also when one sugests "not their cup of tea" is a polite way of saying they don't like which is okay just like when I made mention a while back that the Durand Talea arm wasn't my cup of tea and others whom I know since using it feel the same way right?
WOW! I just went onto the site, I was not privy.

I would most defiantly be in conatact with both USA and Germany to confirm prior to purchase what the heck is going on.

This whole situation is not good for the actual manufacture.

I don't know why there would be any service issues due to a new distributor coming into play, MBL Germany should still be reinbursing whom ever deals with any warranty issue, in the end it is MBL's product.

If they don't then I would not buy such product period.
Nattop,

Seems like anytime MBL is brought up this is just where it goes.

Stringreen doesn't sound like real music in real time ... sounds too hifi, now I've read everything.

What a joke! but it's your opinion but now I no to just bi-pass any of your posting.

You have Vandersteen 5A please ...
German tanks now, wow! don't hold back now.

I see you have a hidden adgenda.

Sorry but you have "O" credibility with your statements made so far.
Stringreen,

I only see one mention of your Vandies and that was mine, so who made fun of them. A little sensitive are we.

Lrsky, I have heard Vandies and they are okay but that's it, would I own a pair as my reference speakers? no. I could get into it but why, that's not what this thread is about, but if an owner such as Stringreen making silly remarks as he has noted towards the MBL's clearly demonstrates to me lack of his credibitly period. All one needs to do is read his silly postings, be it his opinion or not just isn't factual, anyone who has actually heard the MBL's knows this is far from what their sound characteristics and some have already posted above.

It really gets tirersome reading such nonsence.

Hi Ericngo1,

so Albert is referring to listening to your set-up then when he says blah! blah!

My communication back and forth with Albert is exactly that and nothing else, there is nothing wrong to agree to disagree.

But if Albert is hearing what he mentioned and relating to listening to listening to your set-up then something is wrong.

I have to say firstly my preference is not to have these wonderful speakers paired up with MBL amplification, I've been there and done that. You had asked some questions in another thread posted in relation the the 6010d pre which I also owned for numerous years so you can refer to such.

You obviously have heard Albert's system, kindly provide a description listing areas and the differences you hear in comparison to assist.

MBL's paired up with VAC's Sig. MK2a pre and Statement 450 mono blocks is the ultimate combo, nothing I have owned and heard comes close and I have heard and owned allot.

From Boulder 2050's, Karan 1200's, MBL 9008's and 9011's, CAT JL3 Sig MK2's, Bryston Squared 28's just to name a few. I don't know of anyone else who has gone to such extent.

Actually I prefered the Squared 28's over both the 9008's and 9011's BUT paired up with a tube phono, Ref3 is a great match with Bryston. I'm aware of several individuals whom after providing my thoughts tried and agreed and in the end sold off their MBL amps and using that money eslewhere. Most either have a REF3 paired up with the 28's or even some are using the Vac pre.



Nvp, are you for real? I'm not attacking but providing my own opinion so get you facts straight before you start to push those keys endlessly becuase doing so only demonstrates your own character.

If you want to debate I have no problem with such but be constructive because YAWN it really is boring!

You obviously lack knowledge in MBL's and another one who just likes to lead others a stray.

1. MBL's nor Manepan or horn speakers so what's your point above, makes no sence.

2. Which MBL'd are you making reference to, I can only make reference to 101E's. If you are making reference to such it's not tons of power as you write above. It's current, big difference.

3. can't follow the rest of your bable because it makes no sence when you write "larger rooms than the Magnepans, and are even more tricker to set up than dipoles."

4. one needs a nearly perfect room, don't agree with this statement either.

You clearly have no clue of 101E speakers and only going by show or dealer set-ups, please go back to your own set-up because abviously you are the one with the adgenda.

Khrys, so I need to post pictures to improve my credibility, are you for real?

I'm not shocked with your round about reply above because we have crossed paths in disagreement before.

The thread isn't about my system, why again do you and others seem to have issues with reading and not staying on topic by being constructive and replying to the the OP's posting, pretty simple unless you have a hidden adgenda?