But to get adequate bass with the above mentioned speakers comes with a cost...they do well with vocals, acoustic material,etc...the Maggie 12s are even more refined...but the bass is very small scaled...the 1.6s are much better at this...but they require a bigger room,power,and cost considerably more than the mmgs...have to agree...both mags and MLs do the transparency thing great...just dont put on any reggae!