Baranyi- Not sure if you thought my post was useless :) but there are people who come on here who claim the SA 1 is better than anything-even a TRL modded SA14 (which you are familiar with). Others think it was overpriced and over engineered for the end sound you get. I have no idea. Ask Paul at TRL-he may have had one come through the shop. I see you are onto something else. Let us know how it works out. |
MrChips- Ironically, the SA1 player you worship at the altar of Audio Dogmatism has been directly compared by several people (including some in this very thread) to the actual digital front end in my system. Many people prefer the modded TRL SA14 over the stock SA 1 that have heard both or who have had both. At a minimum, there are things they like about each and it is a difficult call. You should have a more open mind. Technology marches on and modded players by and large usually eclipse anything any large manufacturers are able to engineer and develop. Enjoy your SA1. |
711smilin- Thanks for your typical insightful input Steve. :) As for how much modded units sell for- no one ever gets what they invest into a modded unit. That is a fact of audiophile buying and selling. It does seem better to lose a few hundred than a few thousand like you will with other modders. As for why people sell TRL units-they have done over 600 digital mods in the past year alone. Of course units will get resold on the AG market. It just creates great deals for someone else. People like to try different things in this hobby - you know that better than anyone. Have a Merry Christmas and try and be more positive next year. :) |
711smilin- Yes, the thread is about Marantz units. I have one. MrChips has several apparently. Baranyi has a couple. Jes45 has one. You have none to my knowledge and have never owned a TRL modded one either. I never claimed the TRL modded unit was better-just that some people thought it compared favorably or even surpassed the SA1 in part or full in their opinion. Just opinions-that is what makes this hobby fun. And who mentioned Alex and APL? Not sure why you brought him up but since you did..... Just for the record: Here is a guy apparently taking a $2800 hit on an APL unit: http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtltran&1137550757 Here is a guy taking a $2100 loss on an APL unit: http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1137795125 Here is a guy taking a $2000 bath on another APL unit: http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1140142052 Like I said, the initial investor in a modded unit usually will not recoup that back fully. It doesn't matter who the modder is and really reflects little on the modder. I am sure all of the above units are quite excellent. There is an odd thing about audiophiles and modded units. If they bought the initial modded unit it was worth every penny. If they go to buy a used modded unit-they will not pay nearly the same price-no matter how good. It is almost like the price drop on new gear. You open the box and it is now worth 30% less. Crazy hobby. Digital sources especially are the worst investment in Audio. My advice- Buy used and buy modded units used if possible. As for Alex's workload-sounds like he needs to hire some help. He is working too hard. And also for the record- no one has taken up TRL on their Money Back offer yet to my knowledge. I am also glad you have found happiness after trying out 40 digital units in two years. I am never sure as to what to make of it when you make that claim other than you are quite passionate in your search. Finally, yes I am a very funny guy. Have a nice holiday Steve. |
Boa2- Am doing wonderfully this Holiday by the way, but thanks for your concern. I will keep your viewpoint in mind. Not sure how my comments are vindictive. Folks claim Alex works 18 hour days. I am glad business is good for him. Not sure why or how he has time for all of this nonsense here. Maybe you should chat with your colleague 711smilin. I think he escalated this round of banter. |
Tvad- Not trying to distort facts to make a case and I apologize if it appeared that way. I just did a quick search. The basic point is that the original buyer for new digital units, and modded digital units takes a hit when selling. This is not really a reflection on the quality of the actual unit-it is just what happens. We all know that APL does excellent work as does TRL. I recently saw an incredible deal for a pair of Parasound JC-1's modded by Steve Nugent that a person was selling. Probably hard to find a better amp period at any price but even those were discounted substantially by the original buyer. This is a crazy hobby. |
Alex- How do you find the time to stop in here during those long 18 hour days? Maybe you could drop this guy an email since you are cruising the internet forums these days? http://www.aplhifi.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=266 By the way, he is on your forum on your website. Best wishes and have a great New Year. |
Lkdog, your post that prompted my commentary did not reflect this sentiment. Well, it was certainly not intended to offend you. You are typically very fair and objective and well respected in these forums. Some are not as ethical, unfortunately, and it goes well beyond the silliness in these forums. I don't like getting badgered directly offline. I will try and refrain from getting involved in such threads in the future. The Hatfield and McCoys stance between folks who are enthusiasts of APL and TRL unfortunately diverts attention from the advances being made by these and other excellent modders. It is all good for the end user and we should just enjoy and respectfuly accept differences and the fact that everyone has their own unique preferences. |
