Magnepan 3.7 - 3.7i owners need help please


Hello, I have owned a pair of Magnepan 3.6r's for quite some time. I was assured that the 3.7i's were a big step in sonic improvement over the 3.6r's. So, I went and bought a brand new pair of 3.7i's. Got them home, set them up, and have approximately 20 hours of play on them.

I am using the exact same equipment as I had with the 3.6r's which is a Sanders Magtech amp, a Benchmark 3 hgc dac, and the exact same decent quality cabling. The 3.6r's had a partial external crossover and I was bi-wiring. The 3.7i's do not have anything but a single pair of binding posts, so I am using the exact same speaker cable but not a bi-wire version.

What I have noticed it that they definitely do not have the depth, spatial characteristics, or openess of the 3.6r's. They do however have maybe a more predominant midrange but, at the sacrifice of the midrange being bloated or muddled at moderate volume levels. I have noticed that the 3.7i's have sort of a filter membrane behind the midrange section which my 3.6r's did not. Maybe a smaller rear dipole radiation pattern? The bass is also lacking compared to the bass response of the 3.6r's

The Dealer said they may need more break in to loosen the mylar. However if that were the case, the midrange would get worse, but thembass may get better. The passive crossovers may need some more break in time, but to be honest, i'm skeptical about all of it!

So, anyone out there that can offer some insight would be greatly appreciated. I am just a working class hero with limited financial resources. I cant afford to spend a large sum of money for something no returnable, and go backwards with disappointment. Needless to say I did not get much sleep last night. Might need a prescription for xanax at this point!
 Thanks, Steve.. 
sfrounds

Showing 1 response by cardiffkook

I have a pair of 30 year old Maggie IIIa's and a pair of new 3.7I's and have to agree that the newer Maggies took hundreds (300-500) of hours to break in. Until they broke in, the soundstage was diffuse, and the bass was less than stellar.  Honestly they were a mess until breaking in. 

The new speakers definitely added a strip of felt behind part of the midrange. My guess is that it is to dampen the back wave reflection and allow the speaker to be placed closer to the FW, thus making the speaker more spouse friendly. It is obvious when looking at a 3.7 vs a 3.7i. Magnepan is famously reluctant to give details though. 

One tip with the i series is that they need -- according to Wendell --  to have the woofer panel slightly closer than the ribbon tweeter. This of course means that if your tweets are in that you need a lot of toe in, possibly more than you are used to. Less toe in with tweets out. You can see the effect of getting the tweets further away in measurements as it mostly reduces a suck out around the crossover which is readily apparent if the tweets are the same or closer.  

I have not heard the 3.6, but compared to the IIIa, the 3.7i has more detail, has a much smoother and tamer upper midrange, more upper bass and substantially less low bass.  The older speakers go down to the upper twenties while the new ones end in the upper thirties.  (In the 30 years of evolution they made the woofer panels smaller and the midrange larger).

i am currently running both pairs. The 3.7i's are being run in my smaller room with Pass 250.5 amplification and are about 7.5 feet from the FW, tweets in lots of toe in. I am running the older pair in a much larger room tweets out, about the same distance from the FW, with DWMs to boost the mid bass.  I drive the second pair with the 1700 watts into 2 ohm Emotiva XPA1s (the DWMs and larger room make the tough Maggie load tougher).

I prefer the Pass Labs and 3.7i, but there are pros and cons to both systems.