Magnepan 1.7i Amp recommendations


Hey everyone, I have been googling and most of the recommendation threads I found on various sites (including this site) are for the LRS.

What about the 1.7i?

Schiit Vidar, various Chifi tube amps, Parasound Halo A23+, etc. I want Class AB ideally, tried Class D (Hypex NC252 from Audiophonics) and the power switch was defective on it. Want to stick to a brand in the US or one that can be repaired easily.

Tube amps caught my eye, but I want to keep the price under $2000 new. The lower the better as with this whole pandemic I am trying to keep my spending lower, but I got no amp whatsoever at the moment.

Thank you,
Tom.
128x128archerious
for maggies you want solid state for sure, 100 wpc or higher

many out there, parasound, van alstine, odyssey, used mccormacks, used krells, etc etc

just browse solid state amps section used
@jjss49 I'm interested to hear you say this because I was considering Maggies for my tube amps recently but steered away because of the logic you're laying down. Question: do you think this applies to all Maggies and all tubes? I have 60wpc tubes and was thinking about the 1.7's but...would you say any maggie needs ss? In other words, how far does the logic of your argument range?
hilde

i think the exceptions are few more 'normal use'  (depends on room and volume level obviously, or have one monster of a tube amp)

even little maggies suck a lot of juice, and furthermore, most maggie users will say the speaker needs good power and grip to come alive

further, maggies roll off at the frequency extremes, esp. bass, same for most tube amps, so reinforcing weaknesses at play here

of course, you have the tube amp already, put it on the low impedance taps try it, can’t hurt to try if you watch the amp carefully so signs of stress ... but i think most maggie users find their way to SS power amps, and put tubes in the earlier in the chain if they want some tube magic
jjss -- thanks. Already steered away from the maggies but if I move to a larger room I was thinking I might consider them again. But at that point, it would probably be time for an amp change, as well.
This is somewhat against the “common knowledge” of massive wattage, but a couple of experienced, enthusiastic Magnepan dealers describe a particular synergy with Hegel integrateds and the 1.7i, including their smaller models the H-80 (discontinued), H-90, and Rost.The longtime Magnepan dealers are Audio Excellence (Toronto) and Audio Emporium (Milwaukee).
The H-90 lists at $2000 new- thinking you should be able to get at least 10% off.
If you are open to used-
A Rost is on Audiogon for $1399 (list at $3K), and another Rost is on eBay with a current bid of $1200 (seller is a Hegel dealer, Overture in Wilmington DE - demo?)
Audiogon also has the much more powerful H-300 at $1499- it is a couple of generations back.
A used H-160, which was Hegel’s recently discontinued middle of the lineup model, might also pop up at the top of your price range.There are watts and then there are watts. Hegels all have very high damping factors to give an usually tight grip on the speaker movement.
The other atypical  Magnepan combination I’ve heard about (with a lower powered integrated) is the Naim Nait 5, but you’d lose the good DAC incorporated in the Hegel.
I have a Hypex NC252 for my Ohm 1000s and it sounds great. I bought the amp from VTV, which is based in Ohio. The unit is under $600 shipped, so you might want to consider that option. They also have higher power Hypex units available as well as the Purifi amp.

(PS, I had a pair of Maggie 1.6QRs some years back which I really enjoyed, but they are so room-dependent that I had to replace them after a move to a new house. However, in the right space, Maggies are fine speakers.)

What is everyone's thoughts on Denafrips Hyperion? 80wpc 8ohm, 150wpc 4 ohms. It measures better than most Hypex modules and is class ab. Lovely chassis too.
@returntomusic

i am a big hegel fan, their amps simply sound great

i am also quite trusting of the gang at audio excellence in toronto, vilip, young j etc... they are able to extensively test what they are talking about in their shop, do proper a-b comparisons -- i have found their read on equipment VERY much on target

that been said, one should note that older hegels have quite obsolete onboard dac implementation at this point - if one buys a rost, h90, h160 much less even prior gen h100/300 amps, they will need to get a modern outboard dac to have top notch sound

the point of the latest line of hegel units - h95, 120, 190, 390 and so on is specifically to upgrade their dac sections

leaving aside the dacs, the preamp/amp sections of the older hegels ARE totally competitive and are truly excellent
Jjss49- Point taken, the DACs in the prior series were getting long in the tooth, and DAC refinement is a significant part of this last series improvements, (particularly in the H-190, 390 & 590). That is the disadvantage of a built in DAC, as digital technologies rapidly evolve.
Dealer feedback specific to lower powered Hegel compatibility with the 1.7i can be found at https://www.audioemporium.com/good-reputation-poor-sound/ , also on Audio Emporium’s general site in the Magnepan and Hegel sections, as well as the owners’ recommendations- “Dave’s Faves”
Audio Excellence has several entertaining YouTube Videos on the subject. Most of the “lower” powered Hegels spec at 75 watts into 8 ohms, 125 watts into 4 ohms. The H-160, 190 & 195 are about double that.

Dealer feedback specific to lower powered Hegel compatibility with the 1.7i can be found at https://www.audioemporium.com/good-reputation-poor-sound/ , also on Audio Emporium’s general site in the Magnepan and Hegel sections, as well as the owners’ recommendations- “Dave’s Faves”
Audio Excellence has several entertaining YouTube Videos on the subject. Most of the “lower” powered Hegels spec at 75 watts into 8 ohms, 125 watts into 4 ohms. The H-160, 190 & 195 are about double that, and 

What are recommendations, if any, for Class D amps driving 1.7i’s? I am currently using Proceed HPAs (used to have them in mono, now using one in stereo) for amplification. the 1.7i’s replaced a set of 802d1’s (the little ones kept pushing in the cones).

Someone mentioned Bel Canto amps.  any opinions?
i listened to them with  Bel Canto Design ref 500S and have since moved up to the monoblocks and they sound great to me.
I used a Parasound Halo Hint with my 1.7i and that combo could really sing.
Parasound makes high current amps that Maggie's need.

I’ve been through many amps for my 1.7. One of the fun parts is that each one is different, and it helps you experience how different companies approach how to solve the problem of being “effortless” on all musical sources. The main takeaway was each had strengths depending on the style of music. You may find yourself avoiding certain tunes as not engaging. The right amp for Maggie’s seems to be one that handles the widest range. So far I’ve lived with or tried:

  • wyred5sound st500. - good but lacking compared to others
  •  Hegel d90. - good but pricy
  •  rogue 100. Fun, but tubes could get finicky. 
  • electrocompianet Aw 220 (2 set up as mono blocks)

If you can audition other components or go to an audio show to hear different approaches, personally I like the audio note sound and I think the electrocompianet has that “character” that works across so many different  recordings. Enjoy the journey, just know the Maggie’s can reveal weaknesses in amplification design. 

I'm running a Rogue tube amp with my Maggies. Except for the heat, I love it.