Machina Dynamica New Dark Matter CD and Blu Ray tray treatment?


This is a set of adhesive-backed thin plastic pieces that one attaches to one’s transport or player disc tray. The disk rests on them during non-spin mode, but presumably don’t touch the applied thin pieces during playback mode. The company says the new Dark Matter pieces reduces background scattered light from reaching the photodetector, thereby improving performance. 

Anyone tried this product? Please specify transport or player if you have and your impressions. 
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Gooff’s membership dates back to 2012..

Some sort of time distortion is in play (FF). 
It’s like a hornets nest in here. Except the hornets don’t have any stingers. 
celander,

I completely honestly went to see how to order it and found confusing statement in the description. If we are taking NDM seriously, we should take it seriously with no leeway. Truth in advertising, or whatever that would be called.
celander OP1,278 posts04-11-2019 4:50pm04-11-2019 3:38pm
Geoff wrote:

@celander I’ve been no. 1 here for ten years. I kind doubt I’ll be going anywhere, ol buddy.

I didn’t realize it’s 2022 AD.

>>>>That’s weird. I see some of my posts here dated as far back as 2002. Were those posts really mine and if so were they legal?
Glupson, you are correct. Editorial accuracy matters. By all digital players, I think Geoff was attempting to capture all conventional CD, DVD, Blu-ray and related players. 
04-11-2019 4:08pm
Geoff wrote:

“>>>>That’s weird. I see some of my posts here dated as far back as 2002. Were those posts really mine and if so were they legal?”

I see that now. But A’gon must have discounted those earlier contributions.
This is getting to resemble a bad hair day on a rerun of "Dallas"!
celander OP1,280 posts04-11-2019 5:13pm04-11-2019 4:08pm
Geoff wrote:

“>>>>That’s weird. I see some of my posts here dated as far back as 2002. Were those posts really mine and if so were they legal?”

I see that now. But A’gon must have discounted those earlier contributions.

>>>>Yeah, right.
Uber, I have no hair. Don’t blame me!
"...A’gon must have discounted those earlier contributions."
Quality over quantity?
First transaction 2002. I said it would be fun but I didn’t say for who. 😛

https://www.audiogon.com/users/geoffkait


uberwaltz “I honestly do think it made a difference on both players I installed NDM into.

But what do I know, I am listening to Mamas and Papas so go figure......”

+ 1/2
mapman
Of course nothing is perfect. Each device will vary from that ideal but good devices will do it with some design tolerance that helps assure accurate results.

Also of course performance of all devices declines over time so a 10 year old device no longer functions as well as a new one in most cases.

Now, introduce anything that affects the actual light levels detected by absorbing some of it, and if enough is absorbed, a change in the output should occur and could be audible if large enough.

>>>>>I hate to judge before all the facts are in but it appears my explanation of how New Dark Matter works didn’t work on you. No biggie. New Dark Matter doesn’t affect the level of direct reflected laser light, only the level of the background scattered light. All CD players, regardless of cost or age, have this problem with scattered light. As do SACD players, DVD players, and Blu Ray players.
Geoff: I got one word to say to you. Just one word.
Mapman: Yes, sir. 
Geoff: Are you listening?
Mapman: Yes, I am. 
Geoff: NDM. 
Mapman: Exactly how do you mean?
Geoff: There's a great future in NDM. Think about it. Will you think about it?
From what I can tell so far with feedback from customers of NEW DARK MATTER and I am trying to resist being too judgmental those customers with good systems hear the full glory whilst those with mediocre systems or systems with mistakes in them get negative or tepid results. NDM seems to very good at distinguishing between the advanced audiophile and the plug and play type. Kind of a smart tweak, as it were. I have a rather good population of customers to analyze now so I don’t think I’m overstating this. I’m just trying to be objective here. NDM is certainly no panacea. Or a pancreas for that matter.
Yep..my kid is cute, too. And I’m just trying to be objective here. 
This just in! Customer X just called to say he flew out and installed NDM in “the Big System” of his Customer Z, in Oregon. Boy, are his arms tired. 🤗

Report from Oregon: Much more of everything, a lot more details, no distortion, frequency extension top and bottom. Horrendous bass slam and articulation.

Better get busy, guys.

Note: Customer Z has the BWS Consulting high power tube amps that come in at 600 lb shipping weight and will set you back 30 grand.
Wow...another stellar review. 
You can send a Midwesterner to Harvard. But he’s still a Midwesterner. 🤠
'Horrendous' bass slam and articulation??!
HORRENDOUS: spine-chilling, shocking, frightening, hair-raising. Shall I use shorter words?
You mean like dreadful, awful, terrible, appalling, grim, grisly, vile and ghastly?
Sure, if you'd like....
Words can have more than one meaning, dude. Most people learn that in sixth grade. At least I got your attention.
Cmon now
Horrendous was a poor choice of descriptive speak.
Now you know why you should never criticize others for grammar, it will always come back to haunt you.

😉😉😉
Slow day at Subway, Uber? Go troll somebody else.
Nothing haunts Geoff. He always resets upon waking up. Besides, NDM also sucks up those spiritual entities that would otherwise haunt him.

Gooff, you should wait longer than a minute before responding to one’s post. 🙄

And anyone here ever wonder how Geoff accomplished the feat of over 14,000 posts? One word: Recycle.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/apoxna-2019-my-friday-morning-show-review/post?postid=1735325...
Prissy Harvard type tries to be clever.
Typical Katie.

So quick to criticize others but cannot handle it in return ... lol

Old saying...

If you can’t stand the heat keep out of the kitchen ..✌🏻✌🏻
Btw do you even know the meaning of trolling someone?

Just curiosity, there is no real need to reply although I am sure you will.

and I got booted from subway.

its always interesting being the wallyworld door greeter though.....
Uber, +1 for snappy comeback. Geoff will never outdo your responses. 
I think it's terrific you landed a job so quickly after Subway instead of going on the dole. Cheers to you, mate...
Wow! What a bunch of clever fellows we have today. I’m in awe. 😬
Do you mean wonderment, amazement, astonishment, admiration, reverence and veneration?

Or do you mean terror, dread, and fear?

Words can have more than one meaning, dude......
Your comic timing is horrendous.
Geez, this thread has devolved beyond my interest.

Good luck Geoff 
Et tu, Brute? Looks like it’s just me going nuclear combat toe to toe with my Droogies.
Thx Carpathian.

I think they were just sick of sight of me at end of their road with a poorly constructed sign, scruffy dog and a bowl.

Uber, I give you full credit, if not for being a wit, at least being half of one.
GK

Coming from you that surely ranks as being on par with a knighthood!

😎😎😎
On a serious note, the new Marigo Audio CD mat called the "Aida" is the real deal. It will make your Cds sound much more analog with no loss of frequency extension or dynamics. It comes with a 30 day money guarantee.
Happy Birthday Geoff

(a note under the Polaroid picture of a guy holding a Japanese umbrella, stuck on the wall of Yuraku Japanese restaurant this evening)
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What’s outside of Pleasantville?”

“There are some places that the road doesn’t go in a circle. There are some places where the road keeps going.”

 “Keeps going?”

“Yeah, yeah. It just keeps going. It all keeps going.”

glubson, we all have our little paranoid obsessions. I hate to judge too harshly but it appears I’m one of yours. 😳
uberwaltz5,457 posts04-13-2019 2:12pmTypical Katie.

So quick to criticize others but cannot handle it in return ... lol

Old saying...

If you can’t stand the heat keep out of the kitchen ..✌🏻✌🏻

>>>>Nope. You’re describing yourself. You’re mistaking comic timing for criticism. Besides, in your particular case it’s not heat so much as feathers.
celander OP1,335 posts04-13-2019 1:18pmWow...another stellar review.

>>>>I’m sensing either pseudo skepticism or jealousy here. Does he think it’s a fake review? Wow! The depths some people will go....
C'mon Geoff
Wakee wakee now.
That was DAYS ago...
Old news now, the world has turned since then.
The more things change the more they stay the same.