Lyra Etna Versus Kleos


I am considering upgrading from a Lyra Delos to a Kleo or Etna.

I have all ARC Reference gear, Vandersteen Treo speakers and Kuzma Reference table with 4 Point arm.

Has anyone had experience with the Kleos in comparison to the Etna? Is Kleos a step up from the Delos or not? Is the Etna a big improvement over the Delos?



I had a Delos for a short while and upgraded to the Kleos and love it. However the system you describe would be a perfect fit for the Etna, if you have the means, and if your asking I presume you do. I have heard the Etna on a few different tables at a dealer and I feel it is a great stride apart from the Kleos. I have a Rega RP10 and I don't feel, nor can afford, that the Etna would reveal its potential on my table. But your table and arm would allow the Etna to perform as intended. All opinion of course, but honest opinion.
I have 3 carts all Lyra. An Atlas, Etna and a mono Kleos. My fav, not necessarily the best, is the Etna. Between the Etna and the Kleos there is, IMHO, no comparison. The Etna is miles ahead provided the rest of the gear is in the same league. I believe the Etna will be an excellent choice in your system

Thank you for your input.

If anyone else has any thoughts it would be much appreciated. Any other Etna users out there? Anyone else that has heard it ?

Any others cartridges that reach its performance at a more reasonable price?

I listen primarily to classical piano,string quartets, and various chamber music. Some opera and jazz.

What I am after is a cartridge that will provide the best resolution, allowing me to follow the interplay of each individual instrument with life like imaging and tone.

Thanks Again,

P. Smith
Have among others an Atlas and an Etna.  If your goal is resolution then the Atlas should be your choice it really gets every note out of the grooves.  The Etna I would clarify as extremely easy to listen to it has a great musical flow.

Realize the is quite a bit more, but given what your after it may be worth the extra expense.

Good Listening


Dear sunnyboy1956: I own the Kleos and heard bis a bis the Etna and agree with you the Etna is a better cartridge, where I disagree with you is when you say: " there is no comparison in between " because through my experiences are not so faraway one of the other.  My Kleos ia the stereo version I don't own the mono one like you.

Now, any one that has the money and analog rig for these cartridges the choice as you say is the Etna.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Continuing the discussion, any comments on what is better at detail retrieval? 

Is the Etna better at detail retrieval than the Kleos?

Peter suggested the Atlas, but that is above my budget. I am being offered a new Kleos for $3000 or the Etna for $7000.

I am seriously considering buying the Etna now at $7000. I figure I will want to upgrade from the $3000 Kleos in two or three years, when who knows what the price will be for the Etna will be then.


P. Smith
I have a friend at a major audio manufacturing plant who has contact with a lot of the company's customers. He's told me that customers who use Lyra cartridges tell  him that the Etna is the best overall cartridge in the Lyra line. 
Dear pdsmith957: """  I am seriously considering buying the Etna now at $7000. I figure I will want to upgrade from the $3000 Kleos in two or three years, when who knows what the price will be for the Etna... """

sounds good that alternative but probably in those 2-3 years Lyra will has new models.

In the other side even than Lyra is a good choice there are other good cartridge alternative, one of them could be the Colibri by VdH: great performer too that is a challenge even for the Atlas.
The audio market is " full " of very good cartridge options.

Regards and enjoy the music,
I'm curious why no one has mentioned the Transfiguration Proteus when recommending the Aetna cartridge. I think they are priced similarly and present a somewhat different but equally excellent sound. Unless of course the 2.0mv output is in question for the Proteus. I'm not certain of the Etna's output.
I know it sounds very ambitious but seldom will you hear such a recommendation, get an Audio Technica ART9, compare the Lyras to it and then decide if any of them is worth their money. I have heard the Lyras and owned the Skala for a good period of time. The ART9 is at least 3 levels better than the Skala. The only problem with ART9 is it is so cheap that you may be discouraged. 
I owned the Etna for about a year and loved its natural and full bodied sound, lots of meat on the bones if you will. Another cartridge you might consider is the ZYX Universe II, it strong suits are clarity, and separation of sounds in it's soundstage. Hopefully you will be able to audition some of these cartridges in your set up. Best of Luck