Lyngdorf TDAI-3400


Well, after reading all the rave reviews of the Lyngdorf TDAI-2170 both here and other places, I decided to order a TDAI-3400 for myself.  I must admit I am still skeptical that such a diminutive piece of equipment can sound better than the Primaluna Dialogue Premium HP tube amp weighing more than 50 lbs, but I have been so intrigued by everything I have read I simply had to pull the trigger. 
I just unboxed it today, hooked everything up, and am listening to it for a while before setting up Room Perfect. 
I really want to hear the what the amp sounds like as-is for a bit to understand it better. 
First impressions:  Without Room Perfect it sounds like very nice solid state amps I've owned in the past, but to be honest, I don't find the sound to be particularly moving.  I moved to tubes after years of solid state, and I swore I would never go back.  That is where I'm coming from.  I should also add that I always try to keep an open mind.  While my initial take on it might sound like I don't like it, I hope folks just read this as me being as honest as possible about what I hear.  I know the tendency when buying new gear is to want so badly to love it in order to justify the expense that it's easy to fool oneself into believing it's an improvement over what you had before, even when it's not.  Of course I really want it to be as mind blowing as it has been built up in my mind to be, but if it's not I am OK with simply moving back to what I have liked so far.   
I have only been playing records through it so far.  Analog makes up 98% of my listening so that's where I am starting with it.  I have a nice CD transport that I will connect to it in the next day or so just to hear the DAC in the unit.  I will also experiment with playing files from USB sticks, computer audio from my MacBook Pro, and whatever else I decide.  I am not prepared to purchase a music server just yet, but it's something I have thought about for a while.  
My system:  speakers are Harbeth Monitor 40.1's.  Turntable is an SME 20/2 with SME IV.iv tonearm and Kiseki Purple Heart cartridge, fed to a Parasound JC-3+ phono preamp.  Power conditioner is Audioqest Niagara 7000.  CD transport is a Wadia 8.  
I will report back as I have more time to experiment and let the amp break in.  

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Showing 5 responses by aniwolfe

I owned a Primaluna Dialogue Premium and preferred the 2170 over it. It all comes to taste and system synergy. I still like tubes, but if I ever went back I would get a SET amp not a PP Tube Amp. Just my opinion and good luck. FWIW 3400 does not use a DAC if connected digitally only with the Analog inputs.
Sorry goin ramble a bit.

I used to own the mighty Primaluna Dialogue Premium Integrated amp. I much preferred the more refined sound of the 2170. Sorry.

I just could not get the PL to please me, I spent 100’s of dollars in tubes to make it work. Just didn’t cut it for me. Now...did I go to the Primaluna forum and question everyone’s ears? Nope! I sold it and moved on.

I will tell you when I first hooked up the 2170, I wasn’t sure I would like it. Sounded a bit thin, two dimensional and bright. Well a week later I was really starting to enjoy it, warmed up quite a bit and 2 years later, I still own it. I can buy something else if I want to. Grannyring doesn’t have a gun to my head!

Is the 2170 perfect?...No. Does it sound like tubes? Not really..Does tubes sound like the 2170...Not!
If I wanted tubes I would buy a tube amp. Does the 2170 do things better than tubes amps I have heard...yes. Do you people buy vanilla ice cream hoping it will taste like chocolate?

Sorry for the over the top enthusiasm for the Lyngdorf has hurt some of you. The 2170 to me is a very important piece of equipment. Its fine to give the 2170 negative reviews..I am ok with it...not going hurt me a bit. You can question my hearing to..I am ok with that also.

Please try to use this experience, buy smarter and stop blaming others for your misfortunes. Make a positive out of it and use it as a learning experience.

The person I bought the 2170, felt the midrange was harsh at higher levels. Ok! Didn’t find that

I know someone here that sold a 2170, because he felt it was too bright...ok! Sorry to hear that. In my system, it sounds more natural and liquid compared to the Primaluna. Can I make my system sound bright with the 2170 installed...sure. Get me some titanium tweeters and silver wiring please!