@builder3
@jasonsim
All good info,t hanks guys!
I have Class D and they need DAYS to warm up, but they idle at 7W each, so I don't mind leaving them on. I’ve also heard some tube gear which really does take 30-45 minutes to sound it’s best.
Oddly, the last piece I heard was an ARC tube integrated, and cold it sounds good, then awful, then finally really good again.
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Thanks so much for the replies, @jasonsim
It's not actually heat output I'm worried about so much as sound quality, I was trying to assess how long I would have to turn the unit on before it sounds its best.
Thank you,
Erik
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Hi @jasonsim
I'm curious what you feel the warm up time for the Luxman is.
Best,
E
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@lak Yes, you will, unfortunately and it will be a big one, but even a 3,000 VA unit is under $200 https://amzn.to/2GgAWl2E |
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Wow, did I ever spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to make a direct DAC to amp connection work with a 5.1 receiver I had it relatively easy. I used a Parasound P7, which is actually a really good 2 channel preamp which happens to have 7.1 channel input/outputs, fed by my Oppo BD player. That then fed my 5 amp channels, subwoofer. I used miniDSP for the center and sub only. When you make your own speakers and match them when you build them, you can pretty much do this. :) I approached the sub/satellite integration as if I was designing speakers, taking into account the measured accoustic offset, and interference patterns and wow. The final result was just mind blowing. Now I have 3 monoblocks, a DAC, a preamp still in a box, and 3 more class D modules looking for a case .... on top of the 6 speakers (5 of which I made). It’s a little crazy for an apartment! :) So, this is why it’s either just an Anthem 5.1 receiver OR a Luxman integrated + the Anthem later, and it’s STILL a lot simpler than putting the pieces back together I have now. :) Honestly a month ago I was pretty sure I was just going to give it all up for an Anthem, then I saw Luxman prices drop by a lot... :) A real part of the problem is I have a background in theater sound systems. I’m used to making it all work myself, and making things pretty and convenient for myself is actually not something I have prioritized in the past. Best, E |
Have you ever tried using your Brooklyn DAC as a preamp? Or is that just the “+” model that has that feature?
I am doing that right now. I'm using monoblock Class D amplifiers with the Brooklyn as my DAC and preamp and source selector. Both the original and the + have this feature. I'm thinking of getting a 507ux as my L and R solution, and then an Anthem 5 channel receiver to do my movie switching and provide the extra 3 channels of amplification. The "separate" functionality would make this possible. Maybe, if I ever get back to 5.1. << sigh >> |
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@joshfilm
Mytek Brooklyn DAC.
Best,
E
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@luxmancl38
Thanks for the update, since no one corrects old stories, I was going from what I had read online.
I hope there isn't an ugly backstory.
I thought I read that Accuphase was a lot more expensive in the US than in Japan due to their US distributor. Is this still true, or was I confusing it with Luxman?
E
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Josh,
Thanks for your insightful post, sadly I'm really trying to reduce clutter, parts and cables. The need to simplify my listening experience is very real.
Not to mention the prices. While the 600 is a little more expensive than what I was thinking of for an integrated, I surely can't afford the 600 + a preamp, either financially or space.
Best,
E
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PS, I just want to say the Luxman "peel coat" thing is super weird.
You are not required to use solder mask when you order a PCB. You can however order them bare, and with gold plating.
That's what I think Luxman is doing with their high end boards. Of course, the gold coating makes each board a little more expensive.
I just think it's funny they claim they are peeling off the solder mask.
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Thanks @
bjesien
and @pokey77 for your detailed comparisons! I appreciate it. It really sounds like a brand I might really like. I'll try to make time to go to my local (but not that local) dealer over the next couple of weeks. |
I'd think the 509X is the better, probably a little sweeter sounding but
nearly twice the cost. It is supposed to have the first 2W in Class A.
This beast consumes 150 W while idling!! I doubt its just the first 2W. :) |
The comparisons to Parasound are a big help. I owned A23s for a while (2 amps) and I can't hear a difference between that and my current amps (ICEpower 250 ASP).
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Oh to be the head of a Japanese car company ... :)
Best,
E
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Hope that may have helped some!
It does! That was totally on point, thank you. E |
You can ask all you want, I'm just saying I'm not sure it's really going
to tell you anything... You asked Luxman owners to describe how their
integrateds sound compared to other amps "I might have heard." I just
don't know if that's actually possible to do. People do this all the time. I do it when I describe amps I recommend.
Have you owned other Luxman equipment before? Never even seen one in person. That's why I'm asking.
Can you tell us some other amps you have heard and maybe some of the
other Luxman owners will have heard those amps and could give you more
specific feedback.
Ayre, Pass, Conrad Johnson tubed, Audio Research old and new. Parasound Halo. |
Surely you’re not going to make a $6-10k purchase based on what others
on the internet "hear" out of their Luxmans compared to other amps...
Surely you aren't saying it is wrong to ask. |
Comparing it with anything else may not be easy on the Internet. Auditioning would go much further. I think I'm pretty much going to have to. :) Best, E |
I found for harbeth owners look out for luxman gear. Best match so far
in my experience. I had owned most harbeth 40.2 anniversary now.
This really is too funny. I mean, I appreciate everyone who loves Luxman, but it's kind of interesting few can really describe the sound quality and compare them to something else except in very vague terms. Maybe there's' a certain audio magic which makes Luxman owners forget to diagnose the sound? Best, E |
hi @builder3
That's what I am finding, the Luxman ecosystem of users is kind of a closed community. The listeners haven't heard a lot of other gear that is in circulation among what we call High End Audio.
Do you get to listen to other gear very often?
Your system sounds perfectly reasonable by the way.
Best,
E
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@builder3 Thanks so much for the review!
Soundstage is one of the items that consistently comes up as being an important differentiator. A good thing. :)
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@builder3 Can you compare it to any non-luxman gear?
@escorial The biggest problem with getting an idea from others about Luxman is no one has a good comparison to other gear. Sometimes to Accuphase, but I haven't heard that either.
Best,
E
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