Lp cleaning - scrubbing records - any downside?


I've got a VPI record cleaning machine (which I've had since the 80's, stored for 15 years, and only started using again when I got back into vinyl last year...that's one sturdy piece of equipment!)

I've "modernized" by getting myself some Mo-FI brushes, fluid, etc. And, after reading a bunch of posts on Audiogon, I recently started "scrubbing" records while they're rotating--just short, with-the-groove scrubs, not too hard.

Amazing results. Much better cleaning of "problem" Lps.

So I'm converted. (Why did it take so long? Habit, I guess.) BUT, I have the impression that certain Lp makers (EMI and DG, in particular) used vinyl that at least SEEMS softer than other vinyl, and more easily damaged. And one of the 2nd hand Lp dealers I know is of the same impression...so I guess it's not just me.

Does anybody have any negative experience with scrubbing to report? Could it damage some records?

Many thanks.
eweedhome

Showing 2 responses by markd51

Hello Eweed/All
Like you, I use the Mo-Fi brush pads, and use one for each of either a 3, or 4 step AIVS cleaning process on my VPI 16.5.

The combination of letting th fluids do thier job, and then a very light scrub seems to work perfectly for me.

When I say light scrubbing, I do not apply any downforce to the LP. All I do, is let the weight of the brush pad, and its fibers do the work. I do stop Platter, scrub in a back, and forth motion 6-10 times following the LP grooves, scrub roughly A 1/3rd of the LP's surface, rotate Platter to access easily the following 1/3rd, and so on, until entire LP has been scrubbed, then vacuum, and onto the next step.

In essence, I am only just "guiding" the brush pad on the surface of LP. I think some might resort to hard scrubbing because thier cleaners may be falling short of doing what they are supposed to do.

In my personal experience, with only thrift shop finds, I might resort to an additional application of AIVS Enzymatic Cleaner, and AIVS Super Cleaner before moving onto rinse steps.

Products are getting better, and better all the time.

BTW Doug, nice seeing you back, and posting, hope all is well with you your end. Mark
Static electricity is a science that stymies me, and have a hard time fully understanding just how it works, and why it affects people living in certain areas, and oddly, doesn't substantially affect those in others?

As an example, I now live in the desert southwest, New Mexico. Here, it is a very dusty envoirnment, a car dosn't stay clean for 12 hours, it has a patina of dust. Often very windy as well. Same with the house, it is a 24/7 job of keeping things clean, and within a couple of days, you can take your finger, and write on any piece of furniture.

Realtive Humidity today here was 11%, and weather at times is so dry, that it creates horrible skin problems, itching, dry skin. I've read reports years ago about CD Players getting fried in this type of climate.

Yet, I've never had any major issues with static. Of course after I pull an LP off my 16.5, I'll see a few particles of dust wish to cling to the LP, but nothing major, nor not to the point where it's affecting LP Playback, or getting shocks everytime I touch an Audio Rack, etc.

I had more a problem with static shocks when I lived in Chicago. Usually, in the dead of winter, in extreme cold, with very low relative indoor humidity.

Wish I could explain why some others have greater problems than I?

I used to on occasion have to wet mop an LP when I lived in Chicago, with a small LAST Cleaning Brush Pad, and LAST All Purpose to reduce the static "magnetic" effect of dust quickly clinging to LP on the Platter. Here, it seems I hardly have these issues, and usually just use the Hunt EDA, or AQ Carbon Fiber Brush before play. Mark