Thanks Sean and Dekay, I have the web site that tells about the new type Lowthers, they claim they work in a bass reflex cabinet. I always heard these speakers need to be horn loaded to get the bass to work, so what I`m after is has some body heard these in the bass reflex cabinet and what did they sound like, I know some people love the horn Lowthers , but I`m looking for a littler better low end. The Lowthers are , as I hear,very fast and very good from the upper bass and the mids are great, there imaging is second to none. the music I play is mostly jazz and fusion and these speakers are very good with it I`m told.