Low price, quality cables for avalon ,CAT, shindo

Wahou i didn't expect some much responses for a cable thread !

Are you sure (comparison A/B) that cables are so important ?

@Thorman : i don't know my budget for cables -not a fortune for sure- but i try to figure the best quality/price compromise.

@Leica_man : for the shindo preamps... hum... when you listen to it, there is a "before shindo" and an "after shindo".
I will stop it there, because I don't want to be like Mike Lavigne and his Dartzeel proselytism...
Just try it or ask shindo owners with which other preamp they have compared their shindo...it will be the begining of an answer.

@ jafox, Jmcgrogan2 and Glide3 : you convice me to try Jade audio cables, with the 30 trial days it ok for me to test it -by the way i have th opportunity to compar them with Transparent opus MM (the famous one at 30 000$)-
So let see what Jade can do !

@ randu : stealth was close to jade in the post, so not a real reason to not test them exept that i don't want to test
10 cables!

For now i don't see the real potential of good cable -honnestly i find cable listening session VERY boring- so I trust you guys and i will keep you in touch !

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@ Jafox : don't hesitate to contact me for tips on small-signal tubes for the CAT amplifier, thanx.

Just one thought have someone tested the auditorium 23 cables ?(made to match shindo products)

@ Tvad : you are right, i thought they were not THAT expensive.

I don't want to pay 5000$ or more in cables....

Max : 1500/2000$ for inter + speaker cable.

For now i don't see the cables as "car's wheels" but as rear wiper or something like that... (maybe a little more important)

I've seen the Jade website...with teddy bears, it not seems very professionnal... how can i know that you are not his friends ? ;)-

The other point is that I want to buy a turntable, so i prefer invest in a turntable rather than in cables which -for me- make no big difference in a system.

@ Chrisla : thanx for your post, really intresting.
What have made me doubtfull is that I have compared 2000$ cables to 30 000$ Transparent and heard difference BUT no improvment, you see what I mean ?

I will try other listening session....

@ Jmcgrogan2 : you say : "Do you consider Avalon, CAT and Shindo to be low cost, quality components? I don't.
I guess my point is I believe in total system balance. I would no sooner put low price cables in the system then I would hook a low price amp up to a Shindo preamp. It just doesn't make sense. In either case you will not get the full performance that the Shindo is capable of."

I agree with you, i just need to know where is the good balance between price a REAL benefit.

After that you say "I apologize for recommending them, as you did say low cost. I just looked at you equipment list and made the mistaken impression that you wanted to do your gear some sort of justice."

Don't apologize, it will be path to follow in the future, but i'm not ready for this path now.

Finally you said "I see that you are new here, and it takes time to learn how to properly assemble a system. Simply throwing together a bunch of famous components rarely gets the job done right. "

Come'on ! I spent month in listening session to find my speakers and my preamp so your arrogance is not welcome.
The only risk that i have taken is for my amp.
Don't lecture me please.

I understand that my post on the credibility of your advices was unpolite, but seriously when you see the website it is quite scary.

Hey guys, look at this :

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/auditorium23/23.html

Auditorium 23 speakers cables used with SHINDO, what is the price ????

$880 for 2.5 meters.

So maybe there is in fact a way (not the only one, but one) to use relatively inexpensive cables with GREAT result with shindo products...

They are sold by Tone Import (importator of shindo in USA) on their website : "Keith Aschenbrenner began experiments in the early 90's to find a suitable speaker cable to work with his then new line of electronics Shindo Laboratory"

Maybe i'm not so dumb and incompetent in my will to find inexpensive cable which can deliver great result with my system.

@ Jafox : you are right a website can look serious and selling bad stuff, it is just that Jade cable are out of my budget.

I don't want to try cables that I can't afford, i have made intense research to buy my system at "low cost" of course when you see shindo cat avalon, you can think "not a problem for him to buy expensive cable" but it is not the case, i have to buy good inexpensive one.

I just share with you my first impression about cables, I never said "expensive cables are bullshit" i said "for me, for now, i don't see their utility AND i can't afford them"

So i have not many choices, you understand my point of view ?

I can figure easely that expensive cables work (you made comparison AB, so..) but i think the difference between a cable at 1000$ and one at 10 000$ is not so important as can be a preamp at 1000$ and one at 10 000$