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you have the room size and if you can live with the slightly lower bass output over the Cornwall I'd suggest the laScala's in the Klipsch line. They are much more emotional and have a more "your there" sound then the Cornwall's. the bass has more impact and tone over the Cornwall just a little less deep the mids-highs have more detail, better dispersion, etc. new or used (used with upgrades if older then the AL5).
Another I've used with very good results and are thin towers are Living Voice out of the UK they make some very good slim towers that are some of the most musical speakers I've ever owned. also quite efficient at 94db. Highly recommended but not see in North America much. they make speakers priced from about $6k to a million bucks.
Auditorium Range | Reflex MTM Loudspeakers | Living Voice
Looking for my Final Pair!!You know that's funny right? because audiophiles.
But seriously I've been running the Classic Audio Loudspeakers model T3 for the last 22 years and while I did get them updated, I've felt no desire to replace them. They are 98dB, 16 ohms and flat right to 20Hz. The first breakup is at about 35KHz so they are very smooth, also fast owing to the field coil drivers.
Dear @dave_b : My take is that you can have all what you posted with the speakers you own making a modification that will permit your room/system goes to another up levels of quality sound reproduction.
The 802-D3 are very good units but the woofers crossover frequency is at higher frequency than what is desired. It crossover 350hz and this makes that the IMD and THD distortion levels goes high and that affect severely to the mid/high frequency ranges.
What IMHO you should make is two add two true self powered subs ( the one you have is not really a subwoofer and makes more damage than help to your sound reproduction. ) where the 802-D3 instead the woofers crossover at 350hz will be crossing at around 80hz-90hz this means that now the main speakers will be liberated of those bass frequency range and believe it: your system will shines as never before with a mig/high ranges in all its spledor you can get and at the same time the really dificult bass range will be handled by dedicated and specific woofers designed for this frequency range and handled by dedicated and specific designed amplifiers crossing at 80hz-100hz.
With all those the THD and IMD distortions will goes really lower and the main amplifier will performs better than ever and with incremented headroom.
So you need those pair of true subs that normally comes with the software to been integrated in an " easy " way at the room/system. You need too an external active crossover that could be:
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
I would seriously consider these:
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa975d-marten-design-django-l-speaker Beautiful to look at, exceptional quality and a sublime listening experience. Musicality, expression and toe tapping pace will put you in the Vanguard. Get your drink of choice ready.😊🎶🎷🎹🎺
Make sure you start with the right room and positioning for whatever speaker you get. Every speaker has a different presentation with limitations so finding one that you can live with. Find a tweeter that you like otherwise you will feel like that lady in The Shining most of the time with the percentage of music that isn't recorded to your liking. That's where I'd start. I've also have some luck doing something on this site. Spend 10 minutes messaging past owners of the speakers on your list- you will find out more about them than the guys that are loving them like their new crush.
If your a fan of JBL and have the funds Everest. The more you pay the more you get.. I was pretty amazed at two pairs in the Oakland Hills.
I didn't even look at the model numbers. I just listened off and on for two weeks, while I worked there. The owner and I got to be pretty chummy..
Retired ball player, sure had good taste and GREAT hearing..
LOL Had an avocado tree in the middle of the deck growing through it.
He was so proud of that tree..
Leaning Spatial Audio X3’s...talked with Clayton for about an hour! Great guy and very knowledgeable. He gets what my frustrations are with high end audio. 60 days or so to try them makes it a no brainer:) He is also going to have them custom painted for me with Audi Midnight Black !! Also spoke with Dan Wright (Modwright) about his experience with Spatial Audio and he had nothing but praise for their company and products.
$12.5k is a good amount, especially if you consider used as well.
I would not rush with the decision, and yes, electronics is no less important. It is tough if you cannot audition what you would like to consider. Not everyone is running to buy Spatial Audio or Klipsch or JBL speakers.
What would I choose ? Not sure, but I would definitely go with lightly used or demo and so I would be looking at approximately $20k speakers.
Most expensive pair of Magneplanars that you can afford, classic Klipsch corner horns, stacked Wharfedale Linton Heritage (that’s my system, 2X in each room at the front, 1X in each rear corner as surround sound speakers, and a Klipsch center channel speaker. Fronts are driven by DIY tube mono-blocks and rears by a second set of the DIY mini-blocks. All of the mini-blocks are driven by a set of DIY tube preamplifiers.
Not sure the Cornwall IV will have enough detail for you coming from B&W. B&Ws are crazy detailed but kind of in a colored way of tipped up upper mids. The cornwalls are kind of nothing but the facts. The sound stage is also very different.
My guess is on first listen you will not like the Cornwall IV. It will take some time to adjust to the different sound for sure so give them time if you try them. Local shop has both on the floor.
The Tannoys I have heard are on the dark side of neutral and B&Ws are on the bright side. This might be too big of a change.
I see some people recommend the La scala. I find the La Scala very thin and lacking body. The Cornwall IV is much better to my ear. Heard both briefly in the same room same system.
I am not familiar with all of those speakers. The Cornwall IV are very high sensitivity. Tannoys I believe are the same. But you should verify if you don’t already know. This is important bc you need to match your amp(s) with these speakers. I will say that if you want that holographic and wide soundstage with imaging and depth, a tube integrated or tube power amp(s) would be the way to go. I am a new convert to tubes. OMG. The above characteristics above are addicting! Sounds like what you want. Plus with even a low wattage tube amp you can drive those high sensitivity speakers with no effort. If you are solid state all the way the high sensitivity speakers will allow for use of a low watt ss amp like a First Watt class A amp.
Dave_b, My man there isn`t a box speaker on earth 12k. or under that reproduces music realistically as though your siting in the Lincoln center in Washington, DC or as you put it at the Village Vanguard. Just think if you were in a concert hall would the music sound like it was coming from a box? For heaven sakes no, I`ve paid 250.00 of my hard earn dollars to hear a great musical it best not sound like its coming from a box. The acoustics at the Vanguard isn`t that good a live recording the box speaker sound worst. Once you`ve listen to the magneplanar`s (aka) maggies set up properly you would never ever want to listen to a box speaker again Corwalls, Klips, Wilson Audio Alexia 25k, Martin Logan`s, Gauder Berlina Akustic RC 9`s 75K. know matter the cost. The best box speaker I have ever heard was the Tannoy Golden Seal`s I wouldn`t give up $2.00. for the Golden Seal`s or any other box speaker. For 6-7k you can pick a pair of maggies the 20.1`s that will just blow you away given you have the room and the right amplification. I`m absolutely blown away with my Maggie 3.6`s (2) Velodyne 12inch. subs the Pass XP30 Preamp and the Pass butt kicking XP 350 Power amp. If your hearts desire is to be at the Village Vanguard mentally but actually at home weighing in on your easy spot listening to your favorite artist follow the advise I promise you you won`t regret it. I am so in love with magnepans I plan to build an addition on to my home a 35X35X12 room and purchase a Pair of 20.7`s; now if the LORD really really bless me I see the 30.7`s 30k I`m speaking it into existence as though it is so Hebrews 11:1-10 Stay blessed.