looking for musical Tube Integrated Amplifier



Hi,

I would like to get some opnions on tube amplifiers (Integrated) which i can keep for long time.

Background -

pre + power - I was using Odyssey Stratos (Extreme) and Odyssey Tempest (for last 10+ years).

speakers -Usher CP-6381 speakers (for last 10+ years)

source - Sony 5400 CD/SACD player (may add TT + Music server + Dac in a year).

Listening Room - 25 X 20 X 9 living room open to Kitchen.

Budget for new amp - 4K

Not sure I can audition lots of these tube integrated here in minneapolis.

I normally listen to very low volume mostly Vocals,acoustic guitar, would be interested in tube amplifier which is more muscial than detail (if someone recommends best of both world that will be great)

Heard really good things about Frankestein 300B Monoblocks but they are out of my price range #6K + pre amp that will close to $7K, The next best thing I can think about it Decware Tori which will around $4K, at the same time after looking at the other posts on the forum came across other few tub amps mentioned in few other threads, here are some of them, can anyone recommend any of these over abother (especially over Decawre Tori) ?

Decware Zen Tori IV -

KR AUDIO VA340 Integrated Tube Amplifier -

New Audio Frontiers Supreme 300B -

Omaha 300B SET Tube Stereo Integrated Amplifier

Ayon Orion II/Orion III -

Any audiospace / sofia Electric 300B

Thanks,
listener111
It would be helpful to know the sensitivity and impedence of the speakers, which sets the prameters for your output needs. I have had a number of tube or tube hybrid speakers over the years, including the Viva Solista, Pathos Inpol and Ayon Spark. I have to say, I really like Ayon, though the others were excellent too. Which model would depend on your power needs I do like KR Audio and New Audio Frontiers too, though the latter are quite expensive. Mastersound do a similar range at much lower prices.
I am a fan of the Cayin/Vas line. Great sound, great value and great service, which is seldom if ever needed. I have four of their units. My favorite is the 100t which I drive ProAC speakers. check them out at cayinusa.com Tell Steve that Ken sent you.
Thanks David, the speaker Impedence is 8ohm and sensitivity is around 87 db, as I am having these speakers for 10+ years I will use these for a year but then eventually will go to something which is more efficient like Tekton or zu in a year.
You mentioned the Sophia 300B. I would suggest the Sophia EL34. Less money more power which I think you might need.
I have just ordered a Line Magnetic 518, supposed to come in tomorrow. Ayon, Audiospace and Sofia Electric were on my list but I went with the LM after talking to some owners. This one is a 20-watt singled ended with 845 tubes. They make several integrateds in your price range. The clincher for me was the 518 can also be used as an amplifier-only with a separate preamp. By the way, I have heard great things about your speakers, even though they are 87db sensitive, the 8-ohm load makes them ideal for many tube amps, you might be surprised how good they work with whatever amp you settle on.
Thanks, Will look into cayin 100t and Sofia electric El84 offerings, I looked at line magnetic 518 looks nice, will wait for your feedback on how does Line Magnetic perform.(never heard number of tube amps side by side so not sure what is the difference in sonic signature for EL84, 300B, 845 will try to search on the forums - looking for something which is really good for Vocals - I am reading Class A is better than A/B but again this is all reading, not actual experience : )
I have had the same odyssey amps in the past and have used the usher cp-6381's up until 3 weeks ago (for sale now). I have been using a newer rogue Cronus magnum tube integrated amp with the kt120 tubes with great success. They powered the 6381's with no problem. Since the odyssey's I have owned mcintosh and classe equipment and sold classe separates to go to the rogue. Btw, i went to usher mini dancer 2 speakers and switched the rogue to 4 ohm outputs. I'm very happy with the rogue
You might want to check out the NEW Exemplar Audio Integrated amp. I believe there is a dealer in White Bear Lake, MN. you can audition one. If not contact Bruce Jacobs thru Exemplar Audio he will be able to help. Good Luck!
I've used the Unison S6 (latest version) with the Usher dancer mini 2 with very good results
Thanks Seadog, looked exampler audio integrated its listed at $5400 so it's bit of a higher end and one thing I am not sure is it is a tube amp or a solid state amp. Planning to visit needle doctor locally as I believe they carry rouge audio line, Thuhaile will take A look at the unison S6 (again is it a tube or solid state amp?)
I would pursue the Ayon Orion which is already on your list, or an Ayon Spirit1 which is essentially what the Orion is. You could call Paul at USA Tube Audio to see what he has on hand. I have a friend who is considering Ayon and was impressed with the time Paul took to gain an understanding of the other components in his system as well as the music he plays.
In the pre-owned market I would recommend a VAC Avatar. Brand new, you could have a Cary SLI 80 or a Rogue Cronus Magnum within budget. These are products with a track record from companies that build the product in the US. Your current speakers are not likely to work with a low powered amp.
ShengYa A-216. 46 pounds of incredibly well built hybrid integrated. Dual mono construction, fully balanced with one balanced input and 5 line level inputs, machined aluminum remote. 150 WPC, defeatable tone controls, no tube rolling as the tubes should last pretty much forever.
It uses (2) Chinese ex-military miniature pencil (Beijing 6N16) vacuum tube per side in the preamp section
The reviewer here compared it favorably with about $6K of tube separates:
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue42/shengya_a216.htm
Thanks everyone for suggestions, will talk to the dealers too figure out next course of action, it may take a while but will comeback to update whatever I get to this thread