Looking for an integrated tube amp USA or Europe


I think about getting something for my son as his birthday is right around the corner, but most of what I see is Chinese. I won't buy Chinese, but I need a recommendation of something made in the US, Canada, or Europe.

Any ideas???

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nrchy
Vista-audio
Rogue audio
Rogue Audio
VTL
Bruce Moore
Kora (France)
Croft (UK)
Almarro (Japan,not China)
Conrad-Johnson

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Check out Rogue. They are good and made in the USA. It won't be long before all this stuff is made in China. Simply a matter of economics. The good news is that Chinese manufacturing is getting much better and is, primarily, based on American and Europeon designs.
C'mon Nate, you should know the drill. What speakers? How much power needed? Price range?
Throw me a freaking bone here.......

You could grab a Cary SLI-80 for around $1500 used.

If you're looking for less power/money, how about a Manley Stingray, ARC VSi55, or a Conrad Johnson CAV-50?

John
Why not look at the new Rogue?
Look at the crdevelopments site www.crdevelopments.com they have a good range of integrated amps.They are made in the UK and even have a couple with built in phono stages.If your son has efficient speakers the Audion products also sound great.The other nice sounding made in Europe piece is the Tesla they were being distributed from Florida.What about an old Sonic Frontiers CPA-1 or an Anthem from Canada or a Cary from Home.
I love my SLI-80 but the going used price is about 1800 rather than 1500. It is quite powerful for a tubed integrated so it can drive more speakers than other tubed integrateds.
John - I used a Cary for about a month and decided then that I would never buy one. Talk about lifeless and boring!

I'm trying to get a system together for my son, so there are no speakers, or anything else. I forgot about the Stingray, that's a good option. I also wondered what other companies made an integrated that I didn't know about...

Not familiar with Vista-Audio, I'll have to check into that...

Any thoughts on Prima Luna?

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The Prima Luna is Chinese made. Try a Rogue Cronus.
Well I'd certainly recommend the PL2. Its cheap, flexible sound wise because of potential tube selection, idiot proof use and maintenance wise, well built, and a fairly contemporary tube sound, albeit a bit warmer than many. I've got a PL1 (as well as a 3/5 combo which I think is great given the price) and can imagine that with the upgrade to PL2 it would be more transparent than the PL1 and ideal for a 2d system for those on a budget.

FWIW, if you can put up with a little less transparency (slightly rounded detail wise) and full but not exactly tight bass, you can do a lot worse than the PL1 w/a good detailed CDP. I've run my Wadia thru it and was quite surprised/pleased. They sure are cheap when they come up on A-Gon.

I forgot to mention, the are actually made in China under European design and supervision. This doesn't deter me but its contrary to your initial expression regarding national preference.
Rotel RA-1062, 450.00 to 495.00 used. Great value. 60 watts per channel, remote controlled, built in phono, good build quality, surprisingly good sound, two sets of speaker terminals. Next step up would recommend YBA Integre DT, not really more power, but very refined sound, 1100.00 to 1350.00 depending on whether it is remote controlled and has phono stage. Good luck!
Nate,

I know a gent who went from a VAC Avatar Super to a PrimaLuna ProLogue Two and was quite happy, though I've never heard one myself.

You could always try a Rogue Audio from Pennsylvania. There's also a Audiomat Solfege from France.
Then there is the JJ-Electronic from the Czech Republic.

From Canada you have the Space-Tech labs family.

Have fun shopping.

John

PS: Oh, how could I have forgotten E.A.R. products from Tim de Paravicini of England?

And don't forget to make sure it doesn't have Chinese tubes. :)
Pathos makes a few hybred integrated amps.

Cheers, Richard
Audio Aero, Audio Research, Manley, McIntosh, Mesa, Rogue, Unison Research...

Good luck on the search!
02-26-07: Rushbattle
I love my SLI-80 but the going used price is about 1800 rather than 1500. It is quite powerful for a tubed integrated so it can drive more speakers than other tubed integrateds.

You own a SLI-80 Signature, which may cost $1800 used, you can get a SLI-80 (non-Signature) for $1500. However, it is a mute point since Nrchy doesn't like the SLI-80:

02-26-07: Nrchy
John - I used a Cary for about a month and decided then that I would never buy one. Talk about lifeless and boring!

John
For EAR products, I very much like the 869's Enhanced SET mode and super-long-life tubes - caveat, it only has 14.5 watts. For more power, I like both the Manley Stingray and VTL IT-85.
rogue chronos (sp.?) - amazing for the $ IMHO