Linn LP-12 is reviewed by the Audio critic extensively and the prognoses is, that it is an Obsolete old design. I wonder why Linn unlike other's does not put out another table? One that uses newer materials with more modern technical innovations so to retrieve more information off of vinyl. I can only say if they did, then they would be admitting that the Lp12 is a flawed design and not up to more modern offering's. I have always been very amused when I here that the Linn needs the support of a good tech to set the dinosaur up, when now you have companies such has Rega,Vpi, WTT and other's making products that are almost plug and play. I know that I am going to get the dander up with many a Linnie. Well so be it, that is what the forums are for. |
Martin Colloms is an Englishmen. Would you even think of him using anything but a Linn? I am sure if he changed camps, his readership would stone him to death with their Linn's. |
In response to Eee3 I never said that newer was better. I am responding to the fact that linn is not competitive at it's price point with better designed tables. I for one cannot understand the statement if it ain't broke don't fix it? We are not talking about waffle iron's here but an expensive TT. That has not kept up with most if not all the competition with all it's years in existence. When the Goldmund studio first came out it trashed the Linn with it's looks and use of newer material's which contributed to a better performance. Yet through it all Linn never addressed it's inferior built and the lack of wanting to use better known materials. I will concede if not for the use of the Pabst motor on many older Goldmund's they would have sold at first glance before anyone would have considered a Linn. I also find it laughable with the need of an expert Linn setup technician to float the table "suspending it in mid air" so to correctly set it up. There are tables from VPI, Rega and many other's that would take most of 45min or less to set up rightly out of box with better sound and with reliability of setup. |
So, all or most are ignoring the superior design's from such as Goldmund, VPI and Teres turntables and just going with they Linn sell many a turntable so they must be doing something right. Well if the design was just what your claiming, why look anywhere in the way of new modern materials such as metacrylic or by using better manufacturing techniques with new bonding methods, just Linn does it right. Now lets just forget where all in the 21st century and instead time marches backwards. |
Eee3 Your arrogance stands a head above all other linn owner's. I have just finished reading the posting from uktel, about Linn's unfair marketing advantage in the UK, by not allowing their table to be compared with other's.That should say it all, yet this will never convince the linn devotee out there that his linn has become an anvil being held up by blind sentiment. A product that still uses an outmoded science with backward technology. A company that refuses to investigate to use of better materials that continues to use the same old suspension system developed 35years ago.That even to this day is susceptible to "FOOT FALLS", and all are given the same tired story of "just follow the tune". |
By not allowing dealers to carry better tables to be compared to side by side is that so hard to understand? Linns been using the same marketing ploy using the follow the tune bs. Do you really believe if you had the choice of side by side comparison between a Goldmund or a Linn, you would have chosen the Linn. I dumped my linn in 86 after hearing the Goldmund studio at Lyric HiFi. |
Uktel: I thank you for opening my eyes even more. I just left the Billy Vee site and was shocked that I did not even see a Rega TT nor a mention of the new WTA table. I hope all who have chastised me, will understand that I do not hate the Linn table. I just know like so many that there are now and then better tables compared to Linn. Heck I know that back in the mid 80s when I compared it to the Goldmund studio and even WTT. |
Mapman: are you still using a Linn as your prime analog source,and if yes why? |
Mapman..well I am glad that to your ears it's sounds the best. But when placed side by side next to the Goldmund there was no contest. I will admit I wished Goldmund would have used the JVC motor from inception but it still is to my ears a better design all around. Now that was over 20yrs ago and I beleive their are now many better tables then the Linn. |
Mapman to say that you have no need to explore another table is fine, if your satisfied with the sound of the one now being used. I say now has I did over 20years ago the Linn is then and now superseded by better designs. |
Drubin: As long as there is a forum here on the Gon for me and others to speak, we shall speak as we wish. Also as I see it Lrsky is saying the same as I about Linn. |
Drubin:What makes you think that I was trying to convince you? I read your postings, and you were saying the same as I. |
