Led Zeppelin II


Greetings and Happy Halloween. I would like to get some suggestions on a good version on Vinyl of Le Zeppelin II. Bought the latest release of 4 and it has no bass at all. Thanks and best regards. 
pivetta
consider a period domestic press. The desired copy is the Robert Ludwig press.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-ZEPPELIN-II-LP-Robert-Bob-Ludwig-RL-hot-mix-master-US-Atlantic-VG/27289...

Even with a few ticks and stitches, a period press usually gets my vote over any reissue.

I have several: the RL packs more punch than most- condition is key, and the prices tend to be high even for noisy copies- It took me 3 copies to get a dead quiet player.
The early plum UK is also very good- more bass, a little less "thwack," but still a good listen. You may be able to find a plum in better condition for the money than an RL.
The Canadian Red Labels marked with TG in the dead wax (to my knowledge, only II and III were available) are good, III in particular. These aren’t necessarily expensive, but they are rare.
Most of the George Piros recuts of Zep in the ’70s (GP in the deadwax) are good and fairly plentiful in the U.S.
Agree with @tablejockey - all my best sounding Zep copies are early pressings and that includes the Classic 45s I own.
The now hard-to-find Classic Records version sounds great and has excellent bass and drum punch.
"all my best sounding Zep copies are early pressings and that includes the Classic 45s I own."

whart-never heard the  45s. Being a Zep head, always wondered how it would compare to a clean RL, or,the other early presses? I find 45 reissues of other genres,just off the mark compared to their period original. 

I've compared my Classic HOTH with an RL. The Classic is very good, but it has a subtle "CD perfect" (which may just be in my head?)overall sound. 
The RL seems to have just a little more...realism?


pivetta-The entire catalog is a safe bet, heard on an original pressing.
I don’t have a Classic of II. I have a Classic 200g (33, not 45) of III which isn’t bad, but it is brighter, less of a piece- more detail and less cohesive than my first press UK plum. The Canadian Red Label III with the TG marking is also very good, but much harder to find.
I have Classic 45s of 1 and IV-- for 1, the Hoffman forum fav- a Piros recut done in the ’70s with certain deadwax details pressed at Monarch (I can pull up the details if necessary) is far more of a piece than the Classic 45- which, again, to my ears, is modern ’audiophile’ with more mid detail but no deep bass, a bit brighter on top and less cohesive overall. The best sounding 1 I have is a second japanese press- I like it better than the Piros.*
I have a plum of 4, a Piros/Porky if memory serves, the Classic 45 and perhaps a few others. I don’t listen to that recording much, nor to the later ones- on HOTH the RL is relatively cheap; on Physical Graffiti, I have a very early UK pressing, I know I have copies of Coda and Presence somewhere, but don’t remember them being anything special. I was and remain a fan of the first album. I like certain tracks on II. I’ve grown to appreciate III, but at the time of release, it was not heavy enough for me.
The Classics were a decent thing to buy when they were originally issued at 40 bucks, but now that the market commands bigger prices, I think the money is better spent on the old copies. Of course, some people may prefer the Classic, and who am I to argue? It is partly personal preference, and partly system synergy, I think.
The problem is, that for the most part, these are pretty bad recordings, so don’t expect that a Zep 45 is going to give you the same magic as, say, the 45 recut of Sonny Rollins Way Out West, or Hoodoo Man Blues, or any of the other 45 recuts, like that SRV set (Tin Pan Alley is a killer, but I find SRV boring, even though I live in Austin!).**

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*We did a shoot out of 1 several years ago, an early uk plum (not turquoise), an east coast first press, a west coast first press and the Piros. Among those the Piros pressed at Monarch was better in pretty much every respect. I later bought an early plum- again not a Turquoise, just to do a recomparison. It still didn’t sound as good as the Piros, let alone the Japanese pressing mentioned above.

**For what it’s worth, and I haven’t done the comparisons, there are a lot of folks that among the Classic 33 rpm, prefer the 180g to the 200g. Part of this may be the QC issues Hobson experienced when he went to "heavy vinyl’ but part of it may also be the sound of heavy vinyl. I don’t find 200 gram pressings to be in any way better than standard weight. I do agree that some of the 45 masterings of other records definitely improve on the 33. Interestingly, on Hoodoo, a great record that should still be readily available on 45, I got the chance to compare it with pristine originals, mono and stereo. The originals were noticeably better. Those records, in that condition, are virtually impossible to find.
Others have more experience than me with various pressings, but my Classic Records 33rpm lps sound good enough to me that I don't feel a need to search for anything better.

I own them all through Physical Graffiti (I wasn’t as happy with this one) and the BBC Sessions Box.

i have the Classic 33rpm and the Classic 45rpm LZII from the box set, and enjoy both. the 45 is killer in my system.

i also have a very fine 15ips, 1/4" master dub of LZII that is better than the 45. a force of nature on the Studer.

not had an OP in my system.

living the dream, mike lavigne. :)
Thanks to all for your feedback. 

If money is no object, check better-records.com. I believe one of theirs sold for over $700.
Thanks Notesaddict but that's way too steep. Any opinions on the latest reissues?? 45 rpm, etc??
Someone here on Audiogon has a Japanese pressing for sale. Any opinions on that?? Gracias.
Haven’t heard it -of II. My second japanese press of 1 is special, and not crazy money, but I can’t make the leap of faith from that to a japanese pressing of II.
I thought the Jimmy Page sanctioned reissues from a few years ago were great for people who wanted clean playing copies--but they sounded vey sterile to me. I only bought the first three, listened to them in comparison to some other copies, and eventually, they went out the door with about 5-7000 other records before I moved.
As to the 45s, you’ve already got my comments and mike lavigne’s. Generally, those were only available as part of the complete road case, which is now stupid money, and some individual albums here and there from The Music and/or Hobson and a few third party vendors, including test pressings and the like, also pricey.

on a related note, Chris Huston, one of the engineers of LZII, designed my room. i listened to LZII with him during the project, in my temporary room. he had a few stories to tell......

he loved my tt back then.

Don't know the 45 rpm. I have Atlantic's 1969 pressing and I can get by with it.

I take it back. I am listening to it for the first time in years and it's lousy -- a case of distance making the heart grow fonder.

@notesaddict- it all depends on which pressing, who mastered, what plant. If you read the deadwax, that will tell you. Atlantic actually put the code for the plants on the labels themselves. The one people tend to chase is the RL mastered one, which got pulled b/c it was too 'hot.'
The Monarch pressings tend to be bombastic to begin with- Monarch being a relatively small plant that was owned by the same people that owned Sonic on the east coast and Buddha records. Even though these were not considered top of the heap companies in their day, the Monarchs have a real following now, but the quest usually starts on LZII, at least for old pressings, with the RL masterings, which are evident from his inscription in the deadwax. 
Mine is STA: bombastic. The CDs and Tidal are preferable.
@notesaddict: That is the beginning of the code: S for Stereo, A for Atlantic. Then Numbers. Then a suffix. The suffix on the Atlantics, usually a two letter code, is the pressing plant, e.g. MO is Monarch. 
Not saying those are the best, just one factor among many including who mastered the record. Those are usually inscribed in the deadwax. If you look up info on Atlantic deadwax inscriptions, you'll see a ton of stuff. 
The classic version is very good
splitting hairs here...right?
That's the one I own am happy with.
Nothing Beats an Original Robert Ludwig First Press by Monarch,Presswell Columbia-Pitman(CP) or Specialty Plastics.
I Recently Sold a Columbia Pitman NM/NM
https://www.discogs.com/Led-Zeppelin-Led-Zeppelin-II/release/8645549
I know you said Vinyl but the Hi Def version on HD Tracks is a knock out.
It was so good I got the entire LZ collection in Hi Def.
I have a Japanese pressing and I like it quite a lot. Some say they are not as good as others, but they are super quiet. I certainly agree with the quiet part - the vinyl is quite silent. As for the sound quality otherwise, I think is very respectable. The price was also reasonable. Not cheap for a near mint copy, but far cheaper than the classic records version of course.
An original Bob Ludwig pressing ia the way to go. A promo or radio copy is advantageous to ensure it is from the original master by Ludwig. The Ludwig original master was dumbed down by Atlantic Records.

I have several Robert Ludwig Mastered Original First Press Releases on Discogs starting at $299   https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/946156717