Large room with low budget for speakers


Hey everyone I have been having issues finding the right kind of boxed speakers that would work in my room well that won’t be too dry on the bass region my set up has an array of Rel woofers my budget is 30k but all the speakers that would be big enough would be around 60k and up I have looking into brands like Focal, Rockport, and Wilson audio but none of the smaller speakers from these brands are very impressive in my room 

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Kind of hard to believe you can't find a suitable speaker for your low budget of 30k.

 

 

 

 

Some speakers I’ve heard within your budget that I like (I like warmer sounding speakers) include Fyne F1 and Cube Audio Nenuphar Basis (comes with its own built in powered woofer).  The JBL mentioned above is intriguing, particularly because I like horn-based systems, but I have not heard it (most of the JBLs I’ve heard sound good, but they are not that warm sounding).

How big a room, how loud do you intend to play the system and what are your other components?  It is a bit hard to gauge what the basic requirements of the speakers you need.  What are you currently using and in what way to you hope to improve on the sound?

I have heard some fairly small speakers sound superb in very large rooms.  For example a two-way YG Carmel speaker did not have any problems handling a ballroom in a mansion that was at least 25' x 50' x 12'.  But, then again, if you require rock concert level, it would not work.  It would help to know what you have actually heard, and what you liked and did not like and the particular settings for what you heard (in a comparable room to yours?).

For the Nenuphar Basis speaker I mentioned above, the room was a fairly large conference room, close to 25' x 50' x 12', and the speakers were well out into the room and bass was surprisingly strong, with no need at all for subwoofers.  This is what a very good two-way system can deliver.  The Fyne system I mentioned was playing in a very small room, so I don't know how they would sound in a larger room, but, I think they would be a candidate.   

No box speakers but the Magnepan 30.7 should fill any room a bit more than you want to spend. You could also go with the 20.7 and a couple of subs.

@johnto … Good call, possibly even good condition or refurbished Appogies l , Perhaps also take a look at some of the Tannoy Prestige range with dual concentric drivers .

JBL Everest dd67000, dd66000, dd65000. Or JBL K2 s9900, s5500. I have modified Hartsfields but they are ultra rare, love them.

What’s your definition of a high budget?

A few of these would do the trick.

 

My room is about 5000+  Cu Ft.  My floorstanders and 2 Rel subs do a great job with a 65 wpc tube amp

I have done parking lots with 40 50K sq Ft with 4 PA speakers  15" w/ horns on top and a 1200 watt Crown amp that wasn't even at half volume. I don't even have half of the $30K into the whole PA system and my hifi speakers.

Lol, not me....that's a ton of dough to have on hand just for speakers, life must be good...

It is important to know the size of the room… but then I am curious what the shortcoming of less than huge speakers are. The constraint is typically the acoustics of a too small room. When a room gets too big… we’ll the small room problems go away. 
 

If you build a 9’ triangle away from the front wall, side walls, and back wall… this is ideal. I guess unless the room is 100’ x 100’ x 12’ or something that begins to be more like out of doors. My Sonus Faber Amati Traditional are about this cost and my room is mid-large… sounds great. From my listening position. Bigger would overload the room. 
 

So, after typing this, I realize I just have never had this problem… always the opposite.


 

 

Have you tried this ? We can put something together for you that will shake the entire house. Try the CONFIGURATOR 

 

www.blueprintacoustic.com

I think that you are totally under informed . For one the Acora for 37k would supply more than you need in terms of SPL and bass? How big is your room?

Amphion Krypton3, I own a pair of their Argon7LS and the bass response is unreasonably good for the size of the speaker. The Krypton3 is their flagship and supposedly even more impressive.

Just sit closer to the speakers… Any normal sized speakers will work at 10-12’ away. 

Look at Spatial audio labs with upgraded Xover around $10 k and open baffle perfect for your setup ,don’t underestimate these.

Cornwall IV’s.  They work in my 20x37 room, though I only sit about 16 feet away from them.  

OP has not listed his room size, partnering equipment, music selections, using room correction, subs?  etc etc etc . 
kinda pointless responding. Also 30k new only or used on the table? If used can get a mutha F U ka of a speaker although you can get near SOTA for less than 5k used. 

low budget of 30k 😆

To some, 30k is low budget for a pair of loudspeakers.  To me, 30k is 5 times of my total spending on two 2-channel systems.

I’m with that. To those with the means though more power to you though I say. 
 

Johnto, magnepan mg30 or 20 with subs?? You destroy the low of the maggies.

Hoe stupid you can be to put maggies with a sub, the most cleanest low had magnepan. Evrything depence wich amp!

I was going to suggest JBL Everests, like the DD6700, but then realized you’ll need to save your lunch money a bit longer for those. How about a pair of CVs to tide you over?:

 

https://www.stereophile.com/content/cerwin-vega-xls-215-1

 

 

What size is your room and please tell us more about your REL, sub array?

 

take a look at the monitor audio platinum 500 Gen 2 it's only $32,000 US and it's way better than magico and Wilson.

My room is about 5000+  Cu Ft.

 

So it's approximately 500 square feet with 10 foot ceilings?

Magnepan mg20 with FM accoustic cross over.

Pass labs amps of gryphon and no SUB.

 

I would think the Rockport Cygnus would be able to handle a large room with ease 

Sounds like a troll post.  $30K budget is low?  Definitely a first-world problem.  No dealer willing to work with you on that budget, or do you just like trolling forums to stir the pot a bit?  If you've really got an array of REL subs, why are you worried about low bass response on your mains?  Get serious.

Mornin.  What I’ve found effective for my 30x14 x15 room has been a system using double advents. On all our 5 channels  with your subs on the front 3 channels.. just mAke sure the 10 speakers have the “ fried egg tweeter”.  Original woofer if possible , ..   gonna need 3 channels of  amps for fronts .. powered subs also .  All this should be possible within your budget. .. let me suggest odyssey 3 channel outlaw receiver for surrounds .. preamp outs for front.  Speaker level to drive 3 subs… provides the 5 full range you need for sacd.  Read Harry  Pearson  double advent review in one of the first “absolute sound” issues

GoldenEar Triton Reference. Built in powered woofers, 1800 watts rms. Stereophile class A rated. $11,000. I have 26'x32' room. They sound great.

5000 square feet is not a small room. My whole house is 1100 square feet!!! What do you live in, a palace?

That's not so big of a room that you can't find speakers.

What about some of the big Tannoys or Klipsch La Scala?

A 20 x 30 room with 8' ceilings is 4800 cu. ft.. Most average to large speakers should be able to fill that room with sound if the acoustics are reasonable.

 

 

Volti, Classic Audio, Viking Acoustics, Klipsch Jubilee.  These are all efficient and won't take monster sized amps.

Magico A5 looks like it wouldn’t disappoint in the base and they’re under budget at about 25k.  Or you might be able to get into a REL stack and speakers for under 30k.

The OP seems to have gone missing but let me say it would be hard for me to recommend anything, you need to do a little shopping for yourself. I think with your budget a good dealer can put you in the right direction. A good working relationship with exceptional dealer really can help you get going and help with any problems along the way.  

A pair of Revel F328 Be with your REL array should have enough cone area to make you happy without introducing the colorations of horns into your sound. Another one…Ohm Walsh 5s.  Either is half your budget.

I calculated that your room is 31 feet deep by 21 feet wide by 8 feet tall. Of course those measurements could vary some. That is a big room. I suggest horns and at your budget you could hit the best of Viking Acoustic. 

 

My room is 56 to 60 sq meters I have demoed a few speakers in that budget most of them don’t get loud enough before they start to sound like they are being strained although speakers like vivid or estelon are too small for the room my amps are pass labs XA 160.8 power isn’t an issue for me at all

Have you heard ANY speaker in that room that did not sound strained? It may not be the speakers  and it may just be the case that the room itself is being overloaded.  Unless you are trying for extreme volume levels,  the Rockports, Focals, Vivid, etc. should be fine and I would being to suspect you have room issues.  Everything is a matter of tradeoffs, and if you insist on rock concert volume levels, you may have to settle for speaker built for high volume that will not sound so good at more reasonable levels (Zu Audio comes to mind).

@larryi 

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I would definitely look for  room acoustics problem. I think a 22’ x 22’ or there about room… while generally large… is not so large to sound like out doors.

 

I agree… I would look at bass loading as a possible problem. 

Give GIKAccoustics a call and see if they can help you sort out your room before you spend that $30K.

 

You should create a Virtual System page on Audiogon. It will also help if you call GIK.

I heard some Legacy speaker models in the past and I always thought they were very loud.