KEF first or dc10audio??

We are in production for a new 12" full range driver we do not make a coaxial such as Kef or others..Who is first? RCA?

I think Tannoy was the first or was it Western Electric?!

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To many companies making products in china that we're originally made in the USA,Canada,Germany, etc. we need more companies like Dc10audio, Wilson audio, just to name a few....

AudioFreak,

You sound very defensive I guess you should to be because most KEF speaker is now made in China and you can bet the cabinets on your "point source" model is made in china too how does it make you feel when you sell to your customer I even think KEF is owned by China company now KEF is just another corporation that has very little soul and if you are such an expert you already know this! or you actually are just anther car salesperson to sell audio now look at the lines you carry only a few of them are pure not KEF

You also seem to like to tell lies about brands when i purchase my instrument 8 PS speakers several years ago they where in a commercial building in Carrboro South Carolina and now they have a 2,000 square foot mill shop and another 2,000 square foot assembly and lathing shop in Santa Fe New Mexico. I am not a dealer but I buy alot.. There are lots of review out there in Eastern Europe and the Scan country that is where they focus. I also hear rumor that audio note people will invest in dc10audio???
You are just so defensive
I only ever asked the question if KEF was before dc10 with a point source concept other than a single full range speaker..and you went crazy.. you are correct my writing is too poor sometimes my wife will edit for me Queens English but she has a real job.

No Mountain high my point about the VR 33 is that companies like Von Schweikert are unlikely to make it in the long run, and companies which employ gimmicks to sell their products are usually desperate, and so many consumers may be left out in the cold when that company closes.

We sell the best brands in audio and no not everyone can sell them these brands include: Chord, Conrad Johnson, Gallo, KEF, Vivid, EMM Labs, Esoteric, Nottingham, Kronos, Kubala Sosna, Lyra, parasound, Electrocompaniet, AMR, Manley Labs, Cary Audio, Anthem, Nuforce, PSB, Usher, and many, many others.

You are the only one talking about these speakers, so it seems that your posts are completely self motivated, the fact that you in your mind you can compare KEF a storied design leader with $100 million a year in sales and who has been in business for 50 years, with a tiny garage manufacturer DC 10 is laughable, what is also laughable is your complete lack of understanding about loudspeaker design and engineering and finally please learn how to write English.

audiogeek most of you posts are very negative such as this one:
quote by audiogeek New Von Schweikert VR 33?
I wouldn't touch a Von Scheikert product with a 10ft pole. Von Schweikert has to keep on using gimmicks to stay in business. They have no dealers, and no industry support.

you seem measure the company by how many dealers the more dealer the better to you so I guess your favorite speaker is paradigm follow by monitor audio and your most favorite must be polk with the 10 thousands dealers? I look for small brand that make amazing sounds like my soundsmith hyperian cartridge with cactus arm or my swiss goldmund turntable wavac amplifiers I buy the best stuff and have money to buy the best stuff

You sell things anyone can buy any time BIG DEAL

I sell lots of preown gear include some B stock including dc10 audio I already say that! i cant only buy i need to sell when i run out of room or my wife will kill me

The unfortunate thing is that if it weren't for the relentless posts by mountain-high, people on here would probably give them a listen. He does a disservice to DC10Audio.

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Mountain High,

Thank you again for another inane comparison.

First off, I would compare our instrument not the soon to be discontinued I8 to the Blade as they are in the same price range but even then the two loudspeakers have nearly nothing in common.

The blade is a big money high tech development whereas the Instrument uses a hand turned horn and a resonator an idea 500 years old; the dc10audio speaker is built of solid wood by hand the Blade is a sort of composite built with high-tech equipment, great engineers and big $$$.

There is nothing similar with the exception that both try to make the best of a point source two different ways.

KEF's engineers are some of the best in the world and I know that both Loudspeakers paired with fine gear represent superb sound reproduction.

I did see and hear the Blade at RMAF and truth is I did not think anyone sounded very good this year not even us!

I think everyone was trying too hard!

Yes and sell TAD and KEF too and Wilson B&W so what lets talk about the blade I have spent time with a pair in LA sound was nice imaging but poor bass and goofy looking.

Oh yes Mountain High the entire world is celebrating DC 10, and to say that a speaker with no novel technology, built by a company no one other than you has ever extolled vs one of the foremost loudspeaker companies in the world is laughable.

I know you are a DC 10 dealer and probably one of the only ones in the country. DC 10 speakers may sound good but there is no way in hell that you are correct.

No I don't work for KEF I do work for a dealer that does their products, but why wont' you disclose that you are probably the only DC 10 dealer in the country, I would say much more of the audio world is leaning my way lets see:

Absolute Sound review of the Blades, rave review.
Hifi Plus review of the Blades rave review.
Sound Stage What speakers would I buy for $100k Blades and Vivids.

DC 10 reviewed where, talked about by anyone other than you, the silence is deafening.

Once again mountain-high does not disclose that he sells DC10 audio speakers while bashing other established brands. Take his statements with a very large grain of salt.

so then why do the dc10 I8's sound much better than the KEF blade for only 10K please note: earlier KEF speakers played full range the blade does not and it's butt ugly ..would you put the blade in your house..Your wife would kill you if she had taste unless your house was the set from Austin Powers the blade is the fugliest speaker made.

And you are bash small companies? so you must work for KEF?

You don't know anything about loudspeaker design and to conclude that a microscopic loudspeaker company has the financial budget to compete with KEF is laughable.

The DC 10 vents out the bass pressure, ie a port around the tweeter, this in fact creates a secondary delayed bass frequencies which are behind the primary output of the mid woofer, this is no different than any other front ported loudspeaker, the only difference is the location of the port.

Also DC 10's larger speakers have bass drivers on the bottom front face of the speakers, this is not the same concept as producing an integrated spherical radiating pattern where all freq. are produced at the same point in space which is what is happening with the KEF which clusters all the speakers drivers in one location of the loudspeaker.

I have one issue with KEF they are not the first to do this concept, Cabasse in their LA Spere was the first company to place bass, midrange, and high frequencies tranducers directly in line with each other to simulate a proper point source, the problem with the La Sphere is $180k, ugly as sin, large footprint, and it needed to be quad amped.

The KEF Blade is the first practical full range point source.