i don't hear it ? i bought a pair used from someone who was looking to sell his.he thought they make work well in my set-up.i found them to sound thin and colored lacking realistic body and weight.the sound is warm but veiled.the design seems simple enough and build quality is on the flimsy diy side i can see where these might work in a bright systems but not for me.I put some transparents back in and my set-up it was no contest.goes to show you how systems differ