How about listing all the amps you've heard under $20,000 so we can have an idea of what you've compared?
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I do not want to bad-mouth equipment from other companies, therefore I am not going to list all the amplifiers I have compared the VS-1 Signature to. I can tell you that I have heard MANY amplifiers out there and obviously there is a lot of fantastic equipment under $20K. I am just simply trying to make the point that the Signature is a remarkable value and a standout in this industry for delivering so much for so little. I am sure that it is not everyones cup of tea, but certainly it can allow someone to dedicate a bigger budget to the rest of the system, like buying better loudspeakers instead of spending a fortune on amplification. I can certainly live happily ever after with many $10,000 amps, but I feel I am getting a similar level of performance from the VS-1 Signature.
The company did not modify my VS-1 Reference, they sent me a brand-new VS-1 Signature and took back the Reference. I simply had to pay the difference in price between the two units.
Apparently, the circuit design of the two units is very similar but some exotic parts are used in the signal path that allows this additional level of refinement. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that the difference between the Reference and the Signature is night-and-day, but it does make a big difference in a high performance top of the line system where someone wants performance without compromise.
Procalc, comparing equipment is a common technique employed in reviews. It's an important element that helps legitimize the reviewer's opinion of a product. Without such comparisons, a comment such as, "it outperforms every amplifier that I have heard under $20,000", carries no weight. It can be done without bad-mouthing any manufacturer by explaining how the Signature does things better than other amps.
I'm glad you have found an amp you enjoy, and it's good to know the Signature sounds better to you than the Reference.
Pespectfully PROCALC, your statement about DK being personally preferable to an unspecified set of amps upwards to 20K is too open ended to be indicative, one way or another. Please do not feel you would be bad mouthing some manufacturers by naming names. They are big boys and will withstand your opinions without feeling emotionally hurt. Personal and very specific tastes/comparisons is what Audiogon is all about after all.
Respectfully Procalc, both Tvad & Guidocorona are explaining most members here take into account what equipment was associated and compared to, in which helps get a better idea of just what strengths the "reviewed" product may posses. Without any of that info, is similar to me buying a Corvette and stating it is the best sports car I have driven under $100,000! But I don't tell what I've compared it to, because I would be bad mouthing other cars? By saying that, I would assume some people may think all I have done is read a lot of Road & Track Magazine.
OH - this is not tied in with you Procalc and I am sincerely happy you are satisfied with your sound. That is what we are all striving for, and why comparisons help others.
I WILL GO ON RECORD and PREDICT:
there will be a DK VS-1 STATEMENT
lets say, approx. 3 months or so from now...
(just feeling a bit prophetic tonight...)
I thought that Procalc gave us a wonderful comparison.
we all can comfortably rest assured that it is better than MANY 20k amplifiers...which ones...well...we're not sure...but that's cool cause we really don't want to hurt Mark Levinson, Dan D'Agostino, Neslon Pass, John Curl, or any of the other presumably thin skinned audio designers feelings.
there were wonderful references to single ended tube like qualities...room shaking bass....performance taken up to a new level.
he used very descriptive words like stellar, infinity, pitch black.
the $2000 price differential was another wonderful comparison although i'm not sure if that includes sales tax.
he was already in heaven but has now relocated to one of heavens better neighborhoods.
what else is there to know?
well...actually...i'd like to know if it was jaw dropping
Not sure which thread anyone is reading, so sorry for the cross-post:
I received my email from the parts connecxion (www.partsconnexion.com) today, they do mods and the like - the guys that founded Sonic Frontiers i think. anyhow, they had listed an SE upgrade for the DK VS-1 Mk II that sells for about $1000. my guess is that is perhaps similar to the "signature" version from the DK factory? anyone heard this mod?