Just got my Audio Desk Systeme LP cleaner...


In 2 days since receiving it I have cleaned over 30 LP's. It works extremely well and is truly a "set it and forget it" machine from start to finish. Playback results are as good or better than what I have gotten from my Loricraft PRC-3. The Loricraft is a great machine, the Audio Desk is much more efficient and convenient to use and allows me more time to listen to music while cleaning many more records. I am very impressed by it and shall be selling the Loricraft.
hiendmuse
Way to go. Hopefully the price can be brought down. Look for Harry to jump in. The idea behind the Audio Desk was published years ago by a PhD's paper. So, I am sure Harry will find a way to put out a similar model.
on the Audio Desk Systeme LP cleaner- $3,450 (instead of $3,895 list), and includes an additional 6 pack of cleaning solution, a $75 value. Enough to clean about 1,000 LP's.
The Cable Company is running the above special.
.... shall be selling the Loricraft....

You will find a new buyer for it very fast.
Good luck whenever you will sell your Audio Desk :-)
how do the two machines compare noisewise?
The Audio Desk is louder than the Loricraft, quieter than a VPI 16.5. The drying fans are the loudest part, but not obtrusive or annoying.
Who in their right mind would sell their auto desk ?
Best record cleaner ever, all things considered.
Rockitman, you know, when you are really honest, that you have absolutely no idea from technical connections. Your joy is to spend money, that is ok.
Hey Syntax...still ripping off American's with Dertonearm ? What a tool you are...lol
Well, Rocky, your goal is to be unfair when your opinion is not shared. Still
using your misaligned Phantom Arm? Sorry, that you didn't find that problem on
your own...When I remember right, you got that advice for free :-)
Btw. I don't do any business with anyone, but you know that of course. No,
sorry, others wrote that, you did read it, but you didn't understand. Not my
problem.
No, the mint lp aligns my Coralstone just perfectly...thank you for asking...How's that crap soldered OmyGod e gon ripp off pre amp selling and sounding ? Quit while your ahead Mr. Crook and Co....and have a great day. Over and out.
Syntax did offer me some very good advice regarding Vibraplane isolation
platforms.

I also agree with him that there are more effective record cleaning machines and
multi step fluids out there, though the Audio Desk is by far the most convenient
machine and an excellent solution for most people.

In my experience, a Loricraft with AIVS solutions actually gets the LP cleaner,
meaning one can hear more information extracted from the grooves in terms of
low level dynamics and detail, though the process is very long and cumbersome.
I understand why most people don't want to put up with the hassle.
Okay, I think that some clarity is called for...:).

First, Syntax always gives first-rate advice. Brutally honest and very straight forward, no agenda, and most important, he does not have any business relationships with this Other that Rockie is discussing. With Syntax, it is all about the differences and he leaves you to make your OWN decisions about the sound you want and how you spend your money.

Rockie, Syntax is much more knowledgeable and without the agency costs that you have endured with the fellow that you bought your TT and
cartridge from...the cartridge has been up for sale since I have known A., and the TT...well, that is another story in itself.

As for the disk cleaner, IMHO, Syntax is patently correct in his
observations. Speed here is a convenience factor that is the cost one incurs at the expense of quality...an acceptable quality, I guess for some, but at the expense of a really super clean disk for your ears.

Kind Regards,
Alan
Fair enough. My apologies to Syntax for my misunderstanding of his relationship with said individual.
Best Regards...
08-01-12: Unoear
Okay, I think that some clarity is called for...:).

First, Syntax always gives first-rate advice. Brutally honest and very straight forward, no agenda, and most important, he does not have any business relationships with this Other that Rockie is discussing. With Syntax, it is all about the differences and he leaves you to make your OWN decisions about the sound you want and how you spend your money.

Rockie, Syntax is much more knowledgeable and without the agency costs that you have endured with the fellow that you bought your TT and
cartridge from...the cartridge has been up for sale since I have known A., and the TT...well, that is another story in itself.


Not sure what your implying..regarding the table, the Master Innovation speaks for itself. It is one of the best turntables available...and the Koetsu Coralstone ? It needs no furthur introduction.

and syntax, sorry about the mischaracterization too. It seemed odd to me, you disappered from WBF right around the exact time said individual was being discussed for underhanded/dishonest business dealings.
Hi Rockie,

Happy to have cleared this up for you regarding Syntax; he really is a stand-up, trustworthy, and impeccable fellow, super!

BTW, the new fellow that has my Omnigon is really happy to have this machine. It is really a very good design. On the other hansd, still waiting for D + A to send the monies for the other items.

Sorry about the TT comment; it was my mistake. I thought you were the recipient of that other TT that A. sold. Yes, you have a wonderful machine!

BTW, I do love your speakers...;-).

Cheers!
Record cleaning belongs in the same pigeon hole as religion and politics. Everyone is free to practice their beliefs. Just keep them to yourself unless you're prepared for endless circular debate. I do find the Audio Desk intriguing and should have one to try in a day or two. Several serious audiophiles I know have ditched VPIs, Loricrafts and Odysseys after using it for a while. Maybe I'll keep my opinion to myself. Glad you're liking it Hiendmuse.
Very exciting to see that a technology that most would dismiss as ancient (i,e. analog), in this Ipad/Ipod/Iphone world, is still potentially advancing with innovations like this. But it takes some time to establish that a new technology is really better.

Perhaps the user community should come together in some structured evaluation of such new technologies. We need some honest objective evaluation of the new or the tried and true will be killed to the detriment of all.
Getting back on topic, I have cleaned 40 records in the past 2 days. I have never seen cleaner static free records ever. I rebuilt my entire lp collection from scratch starting back in early 2010, so all of my records were purchased sealed or near mint. This machine does the job. I can't say how it will do on dirty less than nm records...but for me, I won't buy anything less than NM. I am extremely happy with this machine despite the skeptics. Ultrasonic cleaning does work. Removes mold release compound completely.
YEs, the price needs to come way down, but I would love to have one. I think I saw one at capital audifest for the show special price of still over $3000.
No doubt ultrasound is a fantastic approach for cleaning records. It just makes sense.

Just make it more affordable please.
I have cleaned over 50 records with the Audio Desk Systeme. Even on heavily soiled LP's, by holding down the start button for a several beeps gives a longer cleaning time. I am quite enthralled by this machine's effectiveness and ease of use.
Yes, the ability to do up to 5 clean cycles (5 beeps) before drying is another great feature I was not aware of prior to purchasing my Auto Desk.
Yes Rockitman, this is a great feature. On visibly soiled albums where a single standard cleaning did not fully remove, a full 5 cleaning cycles did the trick.
Does anyone own an ADS who owns a Loricraft?

I am very curious

I only clean noisy records, not new on my loricraft because of the meticulous time involved
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