jolida issues? first tube amp


this is my first tube amp.
i have been a memeber for a while and a owner of some wonderful proac tablettes for about a year. listening to them on my sony es digital amp. they sound great. all i keep hearing is about tubes tubes... so i purchased a jolida 150 rc hybrid amp. problems. first the speaker post isolator discentgrated, so i sent it in. now the fuse in the back keeps blowing when i plug in the amp w/o anything or speakers connected. when i called about the shipping they said it was ont eh bench being tested- a park bench? spent $100 on shipping and fixing the GD speaker post. now i have to send it back for this. are all of the tube amps this quality? if so i will stick with my mass produced sony. the sound cant be worth all this headache. i cant imagine if i spent over 1k for this.

-pissy
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well, I will agree w/ Mwilson that JoLida manuf quality & parts quality leaves much to be desired. However, in my limited experience w/ a 502A, I cannot say that it as bad as Jupiterfish has experienced.
I'm the 3rd owner of this 502A & my amp was built around 1997 (confirmed by speaking to JoLida on the phone). I used the amp for 2 months in its original/stock form. Everything worked just fine & none of the controls made any noise. There was an annoying hum & it was discovered to be a design issue that I had fixed later on (you can read about it in my "bedroom system" page if you care to know more). The prev owner did have to repair 1 tube socket because he put too much pressure when inserting a tube (he confessed this at the time of the sale).
Internally, I've had much of orig parts have been upgraded & my friend who did the work did say that the PCB quality was poor in that the metal runners would peel off if too much heat was applied during soldering. I sort of expected this being manuf in China & sold in the USA at a certain low price point.
From a sonic point, the JoLida is poor sounding & I think that it is 'cuz of the ample global negative feedback it uses in the "ultra-linear" mode (boy, did I fall for this marketing term "ultra-linear"!!). All-the-same, it sounds quite good but it certainly not the best tube integrated at this price point.
Mwilson's suggestions of Rogue & Quicksilver are very good but they are all atleast 2X the JoLida price. I've seen some new Rogue integrateds advertised in Stereophile for about the same price as a new JoLida 502B but I've not heard them myself.
Other reasonable brands to consider are Primaluna & Unico.
There is magic in tube amps - make NO mistake! I'm sorry to read that your 1st foray had been marked w/ much pain. Hopefully you will persevere w/ tube power amps & will get to hear what they can offer.
Jupiterfish,

couple of things....

"when i called about the shipping they said it was ont eh bench being tested- a park bench?"

LOL! no, it's not a park bench! they spoke to you in typical engineering terminology - a test-bench where equipment is tested is colloquially refered to a "bench" in short-form. typically, a test-bench (or bench) is a rigid metal table with 4 sturdy legs that can take the weight of some heavy test equipment (signal sources, spectrum analyzer, oscilloscope, network analyzers, etc). Often this bench has a hutch so that some of the equipment can be stacked onto it as there is not enough space on the bench itself to accomodate all the test equipment & DUT (device under test).
hope that this clarifies.

agree with Rhljazz - tube equipment does NOT like to be switched on without a load (such as a speaker) & the reason for this is that if the load is disconnected, the anode/plate voltage of the output tubes can reach thousands of volts as a result of this open-circuit. This will most likely blow the fuse (as you are experiencing).