John Dunlavy On "Cable Nonsense"


Food for thought...

http://www.verber.com/mark/cables.html
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Showing 15 responses by j_thunders

Do you all mind. This discussion, and the propoganda that is its subject, is having an adverse effect on the cable sales over in the classifieds. Thanks.
Abe, you're just flat wrong, the magic number for power cords is $72 and 17 cents, not $50. What are you thinking man? BTW, what power cord do you know of that sells for $50? I can think of only one. Which cords you got? Or are you talking about $50 worth of parts, someone still has to put together?
Ok that sucks, It didn't post the last sentence, maybe because I was in the middle of writing it when my computer made a unilateral decision to post. Anyway, ABE (cont'd): I am dying to know what power cord you regard as an essential upgrade from the stock power cord, but only costs $50.
That someone was me, and it was a joke. Your reply accusing me of misquoting you is mighty convenient, don't you think. At first you say "I agree that a good power cord is essential..." Does this not lead the average reader of your post to believe you are talking about something other than a stock power cord? Otherwise, you might have well said: "I believe a power cord is essential"--which of course makes about as much sense as, well, no sense at all.

Or, did you truly mean to try and suggest at the outset that the stock power cord is what you were talking about? If so, why didn't you just say that in the first place? Something like "I believe the stock cord is good enough, and it is essential." Or maybe, "stock cords are essential, but they are also good too." Or how about, "I believe a good stock cord is essential."

If you truly meant to say what you suggest, then please excuse me, I do not ever like to be accused of misquoting anybody and I offer my deepest apologies.
I'm still trying to figure out why it is that you are digging around at the local hardware store cobbling together electrical parts to make a replacement power cord if the stock cord is good enough. And doesn't the fact that you are doing that in the first place negate your entire bullshit argument anyway? If the hardware store cables you make don't sound any better (meaning they necessarily don't change the sound) why go to the trouble?

I imagine Sean didn't answer the question because there is no point in doing so. It's some strawman you've designed to prove some point that is in no way relevant. Now, I admit, you have already established for yourself that you are smarter than I am, and that I am unable to understand the superior wisdom and insights of your clever posts, but could you first explain why anybody should feel compelled to answer such a ridiculous question? Because you are very right about one thing if nothing else, I am having great difficulty in understanding the logic behind your statements, especially when all read together.

How about this, I'll humor you and give you the platform you seem to want here: Yes, Abe, why yes, I do think that power cables should be used as a tone control. Isn't that what everybody buys a power cord for?

Let's hear what you got to say there genius, it's all yours.
I could tell no money got it when I gave him a couple of points it put him back to 0/0. But only for his delivery though, the content is just beyond foul and as such I could never endorse it. :-P
I for one am not angry at all. It's just that in my *opinion* you are full of shit. I do not say that to be rude, or to start a fight, it's just that I don't know how to say what I *believe* any better than that. I would say the same thing to your face, with a smile on my face, if we were having this conversation some place other than here.

I will go so far to venture a guess though, that you yourself don't actually believe yourself, and instead just want to argue and hear yourself talk. And with that, I am through with you on this.
I'm not horrified, nor do I need any comfort, but I do feel sorry for you. I can't help but notice you have chosen a hobby that begins and ends with the ear, yet yours don't appear to function the same way mine do. Pity. It's about like eyesight. I can see better then most too, the only difference is that there isn't anything like an eyechart to test the difference and show you what you are missing. Oh well, even if I spend more money on cables than you do, I trust my ears and will take them over yours any day! Enjoy your music.
I vote let's try my question for a while, it's more fun to think about and makes about as much sense. Here it is: Who-let-the-dogs-out?
Oh shit, here we go with the epistimological thing again. Maybe you want to argue about whether God exists for a while, or maybe a theory on the origins of the universe.

Re: ABX, sure, what the hell, I'll try anything once. I pass the test with digital links, why not a power cord-eh?

But sounds to me like you fellas have chosen poorly your hobby. I don't know what systems you run, but based on the above, I can now assume that you picked your pieces on something other than how they sound. Cool. I'm into it. But I will never understand how the unbelievers of you can look me in the face and say an amp you have chosen sounds better or different from another, or likewise with a pair of speakers, but also say the stuff that strings them all together makes no difference. Any comment on how arbitrary that is?

We can go roundy round racing on this for another month solid, but what's the point? Your minds are made up. There appears to be no amount of rationalizing, mathematical machinations, blind faith or otherwise that's gonna change your minds. So that begs the question, if everything sounds the same, why are you here? Sheer joy of playing devils advocate? I'm stumped.
You got it. Bose/Sears = foul, as in totally disgusting. As in even if this is all fun, you wouldn't wish that on your worst enemy type of foul. I just took your sarcasm one step further.

Where'd they all go anyway? You must've really hurt 'em.