Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
acman3+1 on Woods/Pieranunzi duo. Have that cd gets frequent play. Another Woods duo , he plays clarinet:http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3tx4Ki9HePU
frogmanReally enjoyed that "Thank You" TJ ML BB cut. I has the same feeling that it had the Ellington/ Strayhorn sound.  Do you happen to know what
LP this cut came from( obviously an lp as there were clicks and pops throughout the song)?I would like to get some TJ ML BB back in my collection. Must admit I foolishly sold several lps of the band many years ago.
nsp, it’s from the album “New Life”.  Great record.  The record was dedicated to Max Gordon who was the owner of The Village Vanguard and great friend of musicians for decades.  TJMLBB has had Monday nights at TVV for many years.  Pepper Adams sounds incredible on that tune.  Awesome contrast between Jerry Dodgion’s gentle Johnny Hodges-like alto and Adams’ very exuberant baritone.  

https://youtu.be/o7quash4Cic

https://youtu.be/UtxVbcx4Mj0

I’ve posted this before.  One of my favorite YouTube live concert clips.  Sir Roland Hanna on piano swings his as& off!

https://youtu.be/4ZLvqXFddu0

(You did not hear this from me) It's Christmas time, time for rok2id to post some Christmas songs. I mean, how he can peacefully sleep at night, knowing that noone is on jazz af today and some jazz newbie is posting who knows what? For heaven sakes, that is outrages and ought to be corrected...This stands for orpheus too. ; )


acman, didn't you see the news over the weekend?  "Baby It's Cold Outside" is being banned by several radio stations from their holiday music lists because of the "won't take no for an answer" theme and what that implies.

In response to mary jo, here's an older release with top talent to get started, and it should be safe because no lyrics!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U5HpTqOTDQ

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frogman
Thanks for all the TJ ML BB. Jerry Dodgion's writing, orchestration and playing does it for me on that tune. Adam's bari solo is blistering!
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"Baby It's Cold Outside" is being banned by several radio stations from their holiday music lists because of the "won't take no for an answer" theme and what that implies.

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I have just google it, there are so many links on this theme. It's funny.
Media is facing the lack of important subjects so it has to deliver the meaningless news? If this happens during summer time, we call it "the pickle season". : )

However, it's interesting way to promote a song.  


I would say it a little differently. There are plenty of important subjects to bring to the public in a constructive way; especially right now. The media often CHOOSES the unimportant ones, because the media is no longer as concerned with conscience of purpose and objectivity. Seems appropriate to post it again; my favorite version of the tune:

https://youtu.be/xepnRbEK0lk

What I really wanted to post was, coincidentally, this by the great Ray Charles. There is great time and then there is GREAT TIME. Ray Charles was one of those performers who could to dig so deeply into the rhythm that it takes on an extremely commanding feel. Louis Armstrong had that same quality. Check out Ray’s “stop time” singing @ 1:51. Kills me every time. Nice tenor by David “Fathead” Newman.

https://youtu.be/v_tcBVXnCU4
First off, I noticed o10 has recent comments on other A'gon sites so know he is current, even if not posting much here.  But I feel a tip'o'the'hat is due his way for beginning this discussion.  It is approaching 1.5 MILLION views and has over 15,100 posts.  Absolutely NOTHING in the Music section comes close to this activity.  Of course in addition to o10, thanks also go out to all the regular contributors who continue to share their knowledge, information, and finds which make this site so fun and interesting.

frog, it is fascinating to see which stories major news media choose to cover.  Without intending to divert into a political discussion I'll just comment that it strikes me that ABC World News seems an odd combination of hard-hitting coverage of important events while including other stories almost attributable to National Enquirer in the same broadcast.  Maybe they are simply trying to reach the broadest audience possible?

Back to jazz, frog you posted my favorite version of that holiday classic as well.  But I must ask, are those same radio stations now banning "I Saw Mama Kissing Santa Clause" for all that "implies"? ;^) 
frogman, I call it Deep Time .A lot of the guys in the old big bands had it, notably,(to me) was Tony Pastor,Arty Shaw’s right-hand Saxophone man .
Schubert, not too many listeners know about Tony Pastor, one of the more obscure heroes of the Big Band era. Not only was he a terrific saxophonist as you point out, he was a good singer often featured as such in Shaw’s band. Shaw’s was one of the greatest of the big bands. A very demanding leader there were no weak links in Shaw’s bands. As you have pointed out, his saxophone section was always a model of great ensemble playing. Benny Goodman was crowned the king (of swing), but in my book Shaw the better clarinetist.

Btw, I second pryso’s sentiment re O-10.  Interesting, I was going to say much the same thing in my previous post.  While searching for the YouTube link for the Ray Charles/Betty Carter “Baby, it’s...”, I came across a link for a version of the tune supposedly by Charles and Nina Simone.  I had no idea that they  had recorded it and intended to post it with O-10 in mind.  Alas, it was a mistake by the poster.  Not Nina Simone, but Betty Carter instead.  
Any body who loves music for the sake of music would put Shaw over
Goodman .Many symphony bands aren’t as coherent as Shaw’s was much less other big bands .Pastor did not have a great voice but he had fantastic rhythm! Watching the old clips, Tony’s natural walking gate was even rhythmic .
If Diana Krall had 1/20th of his time she’d have 50 times as much as she does have .Another largely forgotten great rhythm man , who many take as a clown and fool , which he was NOT, was Cab Calloway . Black folks in Harlem audiences knew what Cab was about .

I'm no jazz aficianado. Fact, don't usually care for it all that much. But Duke Ellington Jazz Party is a big exception. Got the LP, grew on me so much I got the 45. Its jazzy. Its bluesy. Got a little classical/symphonic structure in there. Its live. It rocks! 

Benny Goodman kills it, too. Seem to remember reading somewhere, more people heard him play live than anyone else ever. Or maybe it was Ellington. One of em from back in the day, when instead of performing once a year to 30,000 in a stadium with amps they performed 350 times a year to a couple hundred in a club. No amps. Talent.
So what is it about that Ellington record and Goodman in general that does it for you? What is your preferred genre(s)? Are you saying that you have listened to a lot of Jazz and those two artists have been the only two that turn you on? If not, maybe you are an aficionado.

https://youtu.be/pA059SzhWpY
millercarbon
I can confirm your statement re: Benny Goodman. My great- aunt and uncle heard and danced to the Benny Goodman band in the ballroom of a Patchogue hotel and she raved about him. About 100 people there, on her estimate.
Schubert
Interested in hearing Tony Pastor w/Shaw band . Can you post something?
Recorded one twice nsp, few mini-stokes make me lousy at this.One with his band which was an on and off thing .
"Where Tony Pastor be found ,rhythm doth abound ."
Shakespeare
For those who might not know, "Indian Love Call"was a slow, corny, long semi-standard till Shaw and the boys lit a forest fire under it !
One of schubert's links led me to this.

I think if Count was any more relaxed he'd doze off.  Still, it swings pretty well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCx5_-P4EH4

schubertSaw that double post. Last post "Indian Love Call " was not available.was this the link?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr5hSsNpvig http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbglg02tczITony's voice is good typical of the singing style at that time. Would have liked more sax solo from him.
Shaw's band was really tight and swinging!
Pryso, great Basie clip.  Very relaxed Count; and lesson in how to say the most with the fewest notes.  Hard to have “Basie” and “relaxed” in the same sentence and not think of this chart:

https://youtu.be/nqn4nyZz0to

Even more relaxed (and in tune) version.   Basie “alumni” band.  Can any solo be tastier than Snooky Young’s on this?

https://youtu.be/RlX0b-AJWz4
As I said, nsp after 5-6 mini-strokes my short memory is about 5 minutes and I’m no good at links , sorry .But it takes less than five minutes to type up Tony Pastor + band and get a lot of him with his own band .The visual Indian Love Call comes up on my post , that’s why I don’t link much unless I have a passion for some body as I do for Shaw .I grew up on swing and never heard a band as tight as Shaw’s.
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frogman, Perhaps Bill Evans playing "Like Someone in Love" .
When I hear Clfford Brown play "Laura" or" Stardust" its not a solo but I don't hear anyone else .
Two great examples. Please forgive my bit of hyperbole re Snooky Young. Still, beautiful muted trumpet. Nothing Clifford Brown ever played was less than tasty.

Btw, Snooky Young was that rarity among trumpet players, fantastic lead player who could also play great jazz.  
NOTHING to forgive ! My guide line is hyperbole is the real and certain sign of someone who loves music so deeply that hyperbole over same is inevitable as a means of expression beyond rationality or judgment which Mr. Young certainly is in that piece !

If hyperbole was a crime I’d be doing 7-10 no parole .

schubertYes I noticed a liit of vids for Tony Pastor'Ss band! He is. Someone I had never heard of. If he was in Shaw's band he had to be good.
BTW - I saw your post in the "What's wrong with Diana Krall " about Tony Bennett having everything to give and her every little.
I have to agree although I still like her but after being exposed to other female singers I realized she is not that good. But then Tony Bennett outshines anyone he duets with. I saw him on tv in a duet he did with Lady Gaga and she was nothing, did not belong on the stage with him.
prysoNice Basie blues cut. I like how the bass player and drummer really kept it swinging. Roy E . at an advanced age could still hit those high notes!
Yes nsp, Tony Bennett is a national treasure plain and simple !I feel uncomfortable to come down on anyone as hard as I do Krall.I do so because to make an icon of someone with little to no talent brings down the level of taste in a land where it is its already at a low level .Same reason is why I flap my jaws on "taste" as "Good taste vs Bad Taste". .Most people don’t grow up on the matter of taste like you have .
I do feel less guilty knowing Mrs . Costello is worth $ 100 million bucks .