Jadis ja-200 vs ja500


Does anyone here have experience with these two amps? 
I used to have the JA800 (3 units) and loved it but unfortunately had to sell it when I moved overseas. Lately, I have been considering going back to the big Jadis, but I wonder whether it should be the 200 or the 500. I know the 200 is class A and the 500 is A/B, which means the 200 gets very hot and might be more colored than the 500. By the way, I am talking about the old models circa 2000. 
At the moment I have JA30 and Luxman m900U, and I am looking for an amp that would be able to combine the traits of both of these. As far as I remember, (and that was 20 years ago), my old JA800 was just that.   
taviran
@taviran I would consider the JA80Mk2. Not going to be a heat engine like the other amps up the line (200 and 500) and will give you the ability to hear the new KT150’s along with auto biasing and enough power to drive your speakers. IME, the best sounding Jadis amps are the middle to low power models. If you can get away with less power, consider the JA30Mk2.( more power than your current older version JA30).
well my Defy7 is out of commision at the moment,,I did some things the Defy is not at all happy about and so shut down,, 
Returned the new SVETLANA 6550's w/o hearing them, as i took my tech guy here in New Orleans advice , which he suggested in  look into the Gold Lion KT88's. 
after hearinga  YT vid with GL 88's, WOW, what a  stunning sound. 
So retured the 6550's witha a  $100 restock fee added on to VIVATUBES order,,and  once return is completed will order 12 perfectly matched 12 (4 sets of trios) from Vivatubes.
also asked randy to see about swapping some resistors , will go with RIKEN Resistors, as they have copper leads, others have aluminum leads. 
Just the fact this lab uses copper as leads lets me know they alos put attention in the actual resistor as well.
Won't change them all, as its about 50 resistors. 
Just the critical ones.
Right now amp is out of commision, both channels.
also wish to say this Defy's trans run slightly warm center and 2 side trans, run cool/cold.
Tubes put out somer heat, but nothing excessive, as i placed a  window unit in my room, and on hot days , will run it  all  night with door closed, so in the morning for listening,, the walls/room is ice cold,,and ready for 4 hours of listening,,when i break for breakfast, i will shut system down and restart window unit.
I can always start up central air, But really heat is not that much ofa  issue,,Now witha  JA200/500, with 24+ tubes, yeah I can see heat would bea  issue. What i would suggest is have your handy man install a bath vent in ceiling to suck hot air out  through attic vent. But then you have the vent running noise,, so not a  option,, How about  makinga  hole in ceiling, and placing a  tiny fan in attc, over the hole, you will not hear fan run. This to me is the best option. 

Update: Bought old Jadis JP80 and connected it to the JA30. WOW! Right now I feel no need for a bigger Jadis amp. Amazing resolution, depth, bass, dynamics, emotion. So it seems like the problem was in the preamp, not the amps.  Thanks for all responders. 
Update: Bought old Jadis JP80 and connected it to the JA30. WOW! Right now I feel no need for a bigger Jadis amp. Amazing resolution, depth, bass, dynamics, emotion. So it seems like the problem was in the preamp, not the amps. Thanks for all responders.

Congrats on your new addition. I know this is the ideal pre for all jadis' amps. 


Well I was hoping to locate a  used jadis Preamp, at a  price I can afford, No luck, The dealer in san Antonio explained *sure not often you will see a  used jadis pre for sale, ,,its like you, will you sell your DEFY7??*, My answer was no, Especially after I have now modded nearly the entire unit minus  the DIODES,,which I will not.
And the 4 blue Electrolytic caps, the 2 big ones on top on amp and 2 inside, these were made by PHILIPS,,,these 4 are worth their  weight in Gold. The tech changed out all caps, and after listening, I went straight back to the Philips,, The Nichicon sounded unmusical, dead compared to the original Philips,,The other caps we swapped out, for F&T's, Mundorks, and Nichicon's. 

Also want to let Jadis owners know, power tubes need be matched as closely as possible. 
Jadis has only 1 set bias screw for each row of tubes. 
Tubes need be well balanced.
also each amp from Jadis is designed arounda   certain tube in mind. Like the Defy7. Sure it will accept KT90, KT88, but the ideal tube for the Defy is the 6550. 
Which I have on order,,aftera long and wasteful journey of rolling power tubes, I am right back where I started, back to 6550's. The original Svetlana I sold off, 12 for $300,,,late 90's NOW, Now I will be purchasing 12 new stock for $500.
If my hunch is correct, the Svetlana 6550 is the best power tube ever made. 
I will not know until the amp is finished modding with new Takman Metal resistors, and the new Svetlana.
I will post a  YT upload on my topic, Jadis Defy, part 2.
I havea  long list of mods and upgrades  to go over inside the Defy , also a  DIY power cord I made myself anda  new DIY interconnect with pure copper terminals (if my tech guy can solder the connects without meltdown of the plastic sleeve).
On resistors, stay with the original Takman metal, Do not go with carbon film resistors,, The carbon film lacks the brilliance of the Takman Metal resistors. 
On coupling caps, go with Mundorf SESG = SilverGold Supremes. 2x's the price of the economy line the EVO Oil, but far superior sonics, The .47 uf priced at $45.
I will go over everything in my next YT vid.
My YT channel is blocked for leaving comments, as the YT/Google mods have my page permanently blocked due to a  CV19 upload that i made. 
Regretfully  that restriction is permanent. 
But you can leave comments /questions on my Defy7 part 2 page.

I will add a  new cayin pre and will continue my search for a  used Jadis pre. 

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