bass is a tighter?
Less grain maybe but I find the tighter bass puzzling as it goes against everything a stiff power supply is, unless somehow it's rolling the bass off earlier, which is impossible in my books.
Cheers George
Isolation Transformers
My wife and have sold our home and are renting for the next couple of years. Therefore, I don't have the luxury of re-wiring, dedicated lines etc. I am looking to clean up the AC supply, minimize the effects of other household circuits and get some surge protection. After quite a bit of reading I have narrowed my selection down to an Equi=Tech 2RQ or a Torus RM20. I can buy either unit for a 30 day trial/refund but would like to make a good choice to start.
My delima is this. The Equitech offers balanced power on the output which would be effective at canceling reactive currents between my audio components. It also offers filtered outlets for digital gear and would isolate my entire system from the rest of the home with its own ground reference on the center tap of the secondary. However, it does not have any surge suppression built in other than the transformer itself.
The Torus on the other hand offers SMSS which gives me peace of mind. It also has Plitron NBT for line filtering. However it lacks the balanced output, and therefore would not isolate my system from whatever grounding this house may, or may not have. The Torus also does not offer any filtered outlets for digital gear.
My system is: Klimax LP12>Erika Phono>Pass XP-22>Pass X250.8>Thiel CS2.3 with a MacBook>Chord MoJo>Pass XP-22 for digital files. I will upgrade the digital end some day so I like the option of digital outlets with the Equitech.
If anyone has experience with these isolation transformers I would appreciate some direction. Thanks
Bruce
My delima is this. The Equitech offers balanced power on the output which would be effective at canceling reactive currents between my audio components. It also offers filtered outlets for digital gear and would isolate my entire system from the rest of the home with its own ground reference on the center tap of the secondary. However, it does not have any surge suppression built in other than the transformer itself.
The Torus on the other hand offers SMSS which gives me peace of mind. It also has Plitron NBT for line filtering. However it lacks the balanced output, and therefore would not isolate my system from whatever grounding this house may, or may not have. The Torus also does not offer any filtered outlets for digital gear.
My system is: Klimax LP12>Erika Phono>Pass XP-22>Pass X250.8>Thiel CS2.3 with a MacBook>Chord MoJo>Pass XP-22 for digital files. I will upgrade the digital end some day so I like the option of digital outlets with the Equitech.
If anyone has experience with these isolation transformers I would appreciate some direction. Thanks
Bruce
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So how would you know what the Inakustik does or does not?I’m just saying anything between the poweramp’s power supply and the mains "has to" introduce some sort of series resistance. And that "has to" reduce the stiffness of the amps power supply, which has to effect it’s bass performance. VTL’s David Manley (rip) did a very famous paper way back on it back in the 80’s, you should read it changed all views on poweramps power supplies design and how to get their power from the mains and how they should behave, I think for memory maybe even Dan D’Agostino took heed of his words on it. The OP’s Torus do not sell for $200 eitherI don’t think I said they did Cheers George |
If the $149 250w isn’t big enough, there are bigger, right up to 1000w, https://www.newark.com/c/transformers/isolation-transformers?brand=tripp-lite But still no power amp should go through any conditioner no matter what the cost. Cheers George |
Inakustik 3500P $3.5K!!! I'd go the $149 Newark one above first. Here's the data sheet. http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2357270.pdf?_ga=2.235938311.78280552.1582701028-203377982.1582701028 It's got no audiophile markup $$$'s attached to it, as it's made for all types of very sensitive non audio electronic equipment. And put the $3.5K towards amp or source upgrades. Cheers George |
No but at $3.5k!!! I would try the $149usd option first. Which ever nothing is still best for poweramps, as they need to have the stiffest connection to the mains, no "resistive components" between their power supplies and the mains zero impedance if possible. Unless you want similar to soggy "tube rectification" type bass. Cheers George |
brskie Isolation Transformers Product OverviewThe IS250 is a 120VAC 2.1A 60Hz Isolation transformer-based Power Conditioner offers complete line isolation, continuous noise filtering and enhanced normal and common mode surge suppression. Internal low-impedance isolation transformer component with Faraday Shield offers 100% isolation from the input AC line. Secondary neutral to ground bonding eliminates common mode noise, providing an isolated ground reference for sensitive equipment and an inexpensive alternative to the installation of dedicated circuits and site electrical upgrades. Removes EMI/RFI noise, utility switching transients, background spikes generated by other on-site loads and utility or lightning related surge conditions. Additional surge suppression components placed at both the line input and transformer output combined with full line isolation offers continuous line filtering of a full range of power line noise in all modes. Great, they have very good Gavanic Isolation as they have an air gap, just don’t use them on poweramps better they to go direct into the mains to get the "stiffest" power transfer (lowest impedance) for control. For your source/preamps this is all you need. (Don’t waist your money on expensive fancy "HiFi" filters ect) https://www.newark.com/tripp-lite/is250/isolation-transformer/dp/90B6979 Cheers George |