Is Tidal Sunray much more difficult to get high/


extreme performance compared to the Tidal CDSE ? Which amps would you use for either ? Am planning a once in XXX years upgrade to my system. Have some old mac gear MC2720 and C37 power and pre respectively, transport Wadia wt-2000, Wadia Digital 2000 DAC, B and W 804s (being the most recent addition 7-8 years ago !). Read about the Devialet D Premier and thought would do my wife a favor to reduce the amp clutter + more relevantly integrate my AV stuff using the devialet and stream music etc. 3 months later i realized my speakers are not good enough so did the rounds from Wilson to Verity. That then made me realize that i want to go back to ugly amps as the Devialet (which i must now sell at 3 months of age :)) while sounding great and looking gorgeous, wouldnt optimize speakers i might eventually buy. Am debating between tidal contrivas and the sunrays (different price points i know) and wanted to assess if people believed/knew /experienced a Sunray's performance in an open living room format versus that of a Contriva and more importantly if the sunrays would need much more expensive amps to get "value/extreme sound" from ?
rohitmalh

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thanks very much for the response Geopolitis. Yes twice the power than the CDSE to see the Sunray perform to its abilities is typically needed i understand for all kinds of music (including complex music) though there are SET afficionadoes who claim otherwise. I tend to agree with your comment. I heard the CDSE s with Tidal power and pre amps and it sounded good. This was in a living room. In a very tiny music room, i also heard a piano cera driven by Burmester (not the 911 , something smaller, i want to say 031 or 035 if that makes sense) power amp and the sound was excellent on the same range of music i took with me to both these places. I also read about a Gothenberg show where the Sunrays were driven by 2 burmester 911 s... Any view on Burmester / Tidal combos ?
Hi ojdeteos
Makes sense.
I like rock and classical amongst other things...
Wow - your tube amp tripped despite being 150 per channel... What about all the people who drive it ( or say they do) with 25 watt SETs...
Ss = ?
Also how much did you pay for your used Sunrays? I checked on Audiogon but they dont have any history on Tidals ( I was happy to subscribe to the blue book but Tidal isn't listed in the menu)
I saw a new focal grand utopia for 32000 USD on audiogon and given that the new sunray and new grande utopia are similar, I couldnt help wondering...
Is it all about the power/ current or is the "gain" of the amp / nature of transformers used important too? I ask because I've read about Sunrays driven by burmester 911 monoblocks . I know from listening and then reasoning with experts that burmester bec of its design has a compensating effect on the 50-100 hz region of a speaker ( heard a non sunray tidal and a kaiser kawero with different burmester stereo power amps) and effectively " rocks the bass" more while making classical music edges a bit more rounded ... Thoughts on burmester for sunray and if one 909 mk5 would do or if absolute wattage as you mention is needed?
Avantgarden - I bought Sunray speakers and am contemplating impulse amps as you suggest ... Either new or used depending on the availability , pricing etc ... How much better are impulse compared to the flagship impact ? Have you personally heard both side by side by any chance ?

Thanks
Rohit