Dear S23chang: Between 6cu and 10cu.
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear S23chang: It is the first time that I read a 35cu compliance ( extremly high ), but maybe this number was not the dynamic compliance of your cartridge but the estatic compliance. The important issue is the dynamic compliance.
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear George: If you have the standard version of the Phono cube then it will be better the low output version of your Glider cartridge, this one has an internal impedance of 13 ohms. Other alternative is to change the Phono cube version for the high gain model.
The problem in the high frecuency reproduction is not a cartridge problem: it is a 47 labs system problem, you can read severals reviews about it.
I agree with what Sean told you about a proper installation: tonearm/ loading impedance/VTA-SRA.
You don't need to change your tonearm it is ok ( I own one of this tonearm ) and works best than SME with the Benz cartridges.
Btw, Doug, Paul and Sean: I own the Ruby 2 and the LP Benz cartridges and I never experienced that lost in the top end, I think that the people that has that problem is because a mismatching analog system and not because the Benz Micro cartridges. I think that the people that has that problem are using tube electronics.
George don't go with the " Denon 103 myth ", this cartridge
was an " ok cartridge " more than 20 years ago, but by any music reproduction standards it is a bad music reproduction transducer, it never was and state of the art cartridge by any standards and it never will.
Doug: the Graham tonearm has many problems, specially with low compliance cartridges, not because is a unipivot tonearm but because is a bad design.
Regards and always enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear george: I don't want to miss the point: try to help you.
I think that you don't have to change your tonearm or electronics, the best you can do is to buy the Myabi cartridge that mates perfectly with what you have and is and exellent performer too.
In this way you will be near the top of analog music reproduction.
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Note: Sean I respect your point about the DL 103. Like many issues on music reproduction many things are a subjective ones ( like this ) and maybe your music standards are that of the DL 103 and the difference in our point of view is that my music standards are differents from yours. |
Hi Yourmama: " I'm not familiar with your arm but I know your Basis very well, and its never going to sound right or hot.......": What Do You Mean With Sound Right?. Can You Explain This?.
TKS, regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear yourmama: Right now Ngeorge knows what you hear in some Basis/Graham/Benz combos: you don't say which Benz models, with which electronics, with which loudspeakers, which cables, in what kind of enviorement ( room, dimensions,...), with what records you hear it.
So there are many issues that Ngeorge and us unknowed and there are others like: which is your analog audio experience, what kind of music do you prefer, which is your music bias, how many hours do you listen to live music every week, which is your ears frecuency response and how do you appreciate the music, which is your analog rig. I ask you to share with us all these information.
As you can see it is very difficult, with out those info, to Ngeorge and us to understand clearly yours means.
BTW, the issue in this forum is to try to help to other people, in this case to George, and try to learn from any one: so, I ask to you ¿which will be your whole specific recomendation for George ?
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear George. As I already told you ( my first answer ) I think that the problem is in your electronics and that you are using a cartridge with the wrong internal impedance for your phonocube.
There are not such " general rule " in turntables about " nimble" sound. I have more than 35 years in testing analog rig and, beyond what Ken told us, the 70% to 80% of the quality of the sound reproduction comes from the tonearm/cartridge combo, here it is where we have to look which cartridge mates best with what tonearm. The Basis is a good turntable by any standards and it can't be the responsible for the high frecuency response problem. No I don't own a Basis turntable ( but I hear it many times ), I own severals turntables ( at least three of them of the high mass version ) and I can tell you that the TT is a very important link in the analog chain but not at the level that Ken told us.
Now, there are many issues on your high frecuency problem because any single link in your audio system chain is important: room, electronics, loudspeakers, cables, position of your loudspeakers, etc... You have to check before you move to other turntable. Right now you know that your electronics are truncated at the top end and that you are using a wrong internal impedance cartridge, so you have to evaluate any single part on your whole audio system for to know which will be your first move.
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear George: As you say in your thread: " My system is quite decent,..." , I agree with you, and that's why I give you other advise:
take 3-4 peoples ( each one at a time ) that are in serious touch with live music ( not with audio systems ) and ask them that take a " hear " to your audio system sound reproduction and " see " what happen, which is the single opinion of them. This exercise can help you a lot ( we really can't help you more at " long distance ". We don't know what are you hearing ).
Many times ( always ) we are asking more to our audio systems but always there is a limit and we have to know it.
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear George: Tks to Ken for to open the window.
Now, I can think that you have to try with other phono stage and this can help to solve the problem. If everything is like Ken told us then the others links in your audio system are ok because you are very satisfied your digital rig, correct?.
BTW, the Benz Glider is not the best top performer but you have to hear it with another phono stage.
I'm sorry Ken but you say that George has to solve the problem at the source. What does that means, the analog source: turntable/tonearm/phono cartridge/phono stage, any of these are very important at the sound reproduction but the phono stage has a extremly critical responsability, it needs to be accurate and dead flat on the RIAA equalization any minor deviation from this RIAA eq. and you have problems and with the Phonocube, additional, there is the impedance issue, so here is where I would move in, not at the table.
Ken when I say " 70% to 80% ..." I refer between the three parts: turntable/tonearm/cartridge, not the whole audio system reproduction.
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear friends ( all of you ): I have to return to by first two answers on the George subject: it has electronics problem and to get the Myabi cartridge, let me explain it:
George: go to the source, the phono cartridge, is where all began, we can't do anything for an improvement in the signal when that signal already pass through the cartridge the best we can do is not to degrade the signal, almost imposible, or better: degraded less. George if you want a better quality sound from your analog rig then you have to start with your phono cartridge, I already told you the Myabi because there will be a sinergy with your audio system and this is a plus, but there are other top options in phono cartridges. If you go with the Myabi you don't have to worry about the tonearm match ( you already have it ), this subject is extremly important and sometimes missunderstanded.
George you don't have to go around and around and ....., you have to go to the source: phono cartridge. After this you can ask: how I can help for degraded less that critical cartridge signal?
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear Doug: I agree with yourmama on this 16Hz subject: for any one can " hear/feel " a clean 16Hz frecuency it has to have not only the audio system that has the capacity to do it but it has to have the room for that frecuency and their harmonics can " form ".
I don't know nothing about your room but your audio system ( like a whole system ) certainnly ( I'm sorry, but the english is not my native language ) can't to reproduce a clean 16Hz frecuency by any circunstances. It is not a matter that " 16Hz test signals become progressively less loud ": by physics law your loudspeakers can't do it, period. As a fact there are only a very few subwoofers that can do it in the right way.
Doug, here you are talking about to reproduce the most difficult task for any audio system even with subwoofers.
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
harmonics of different fundamental frecuencies.
Raul. |
Dear Yourmama: Bag-End ( I can't remember the model ),a pair of Velodyne HGS-15 and a pair of HGS-18.
Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Psychicanimal: I think that you don't know many things about CD technology and you speak like the sales people that when the CD born: " perfect sound for ever", like you that people really did not know anything about the CD limits: first than all: frecuency response for this 16 bits technology: 22khz, this restriction in the high frecuency response of the CD is one of the parameters that's why the CD sounds hard at the top and with a less air than the LP, this is why the CD sound is an unnaturally sound, it is not the " natural music sound " like the LP sound. Anyone that hear ( blind ) a CD knows it is hearing a digital sound ( your trainy brain don't do a mistake ), maybe your brain it is already accustom to the CD sound but this is very far from: " perfect sound for ever ". There are other parameters inside the CD technology that prevent that " perfect sound ..", like jitter, filters at the extreme frecuencies, etc....
BTW, you speaks of Black Gate caps in your CD transport, this means that the signal pass inside those caps ( a bad design ), dear friend the best cap is NO CAP.
You speak too of the soundstage improvement in your audio sound reproduction: I want to ask you: when you go to some place to hear/dance salsa ( live ), how can you perceive that " soundstage "? where do you have to seat ( stay ) for perceive it ? in which manner do you hear it?, BTW: how many hours of live music do you hear every week?
The CD medium is a " mass medium " a " business/comercial medium " and today a part of this CD medium it is at its top of its technology by high-end standards at a very high price ( 10K to 40K ), but even at this level can't compete with a similar analog rig.
Now, if you want to talk about 24bits digital technology then that is another issue, here this technology it is , at least, at the same level of the analog and in some circunstances can surpass the analog sound reproduction.
Now, about your KAB: till today ( including KAB ) the only direct drive turntables that stay at the top end of the belt drive technology are: Technics SP10MK3 and Denon DP 100, period.
Regards and always enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Psychicanimal: I forgot: the Rockport Sirius, too ( direct drive TT ).
Raul. |
Psychicanimal: Sure you don't care. But if you want to improve your life you have to learn to learn, if not stay where you are: nowhere.
Tks and enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Dear psychicanimal: Till now you speaks only about hardware and " salsa ", I ask you about live music and you choose for a " dead silence ".
I'm sure you are seatting " nowhere " and you are not only confused but completly ignorant about music reproduction and in all topics about audio systems ( I'm sure you are " a no brain animal ", like you say: no offense ) and this affirmation is not mine its yours, let me to explain: next I will write many things that you post on this forum:
- Hooking high output MC to low MC stage: " I don't know if I'm altering the sound.." Sure, you don't know nothing at all.
-One of your threads: " Totally confused about home theather ". Only home theather?
- In the time that you were looking for a new cartridge you post this " incredible " thread: " which material is best for a cartridge body ? What a question: it is the most important parameter in a cartridge: WOW.
-Thread: totally confused about analog: about the 1200 tonearm : " The silicone fluid will provide....damping...I'm getting a cartridge/tonearm resonance point of 15Hz.The damping will bring that figure down a couple of Hz ( 13 Hz ). Right on the sweet spot. "
Where do you learn this? I'm sure that your teachers are of the no-brain animal type.
-" But am wary of copper " warmth ".." Who told you this?
-When you change the power cord on the power supply of the 1200: " evident that the Creature ( 1200 ) is now faster than my phono stage ". WOW¡
-In 08-13-03 you write: " I don't see any major improvements in analog over the past twenty years. Not in TT and not in cartridges. " It is clear that in your " black hole, where the no-brain animals lives ", nothing happen and can't understand anything about it.
-" I want analog and digital in balance ". " I want my digital and analog rigs to sound as close to each other as posible ". Sure, a " no-brain animal " can't distinguish between " apples " and " bananas ".
Dear friend not because when you was 20 years old and works in an audio store, you really learn: you can't learn because you won't it. BTW, it does not matter what you do on your CD rig you only have 16 bits of info and this is why this medium is inferior to the analog rig: when you understand this subject then you can say: " I know about audio systems ", not before.Period.
All those information that you write in this forum is only a small example of many many stupid threads and answers that has your name on it and that confirm that you are a faboulous " no-brain animal ".
But all of us in this forum already learn one thing about you: what not to do, ever.
Yes, maybe I'm ignorant ( like you say ), but I learn and live every day thanks to my ignorance, something that you can't understand.
Regards and always enjoy the music.
Raul. |
Psychicanimal: " Raoul, you just don't know when to quit ".
This speack for your self. You can't learn anything, you insist: " the point is that CD and vinyl can be made to sound pretty close...".
Yes, all we know that you like to show to all of us your stupid brain: no-brain animal.
I know that you were working hard to get your master degree on the No Brain-Animal College, and as I can see now you are working fast and very hard for to get your second master degree like no brain-animal, go a head because right now you have the oportunity to get not one but two Guiness records: to be the only no brain-animal with two master degrees and to be the youngest one ( 41 age old only, when others no brain-animals take 60 to 70 years ). It is for sure that your small no brain-animal group will be congratulated when you get those Guiness records.
Best wishes.
Raul. |
