Is Old Music Killing New Music?


I ran across this Atlantic magazine article on another music forum. It asks the question if old music is killing new music. I didn't realize that older music represents 70% of the music market according to this article. I know I use Qobuz and Tidal to find new music and new artists for my collection, but I don't know how common that actually is for most people. I think that a lot of people that listen to services like Spotify and Apple Music probably don't keep track of what the algorithms are queuing up in their playlists. Perhaps it's all becoming elevator music. 

Is Old Music Killing New Music? - The Atlantic

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I think that Alexander the Great did a better job to give peace to the world and education than US after world war 2...Think about the last 70 years of Us politic... 😁😊 Who was the victor after 1990 and what this victor made of his victory? Insane wars with insane politic...

 

For the generation problem i think that hilde is right...

We the booming generation are the one who created this world today not the young .... And the only whining people are old people saying that they were better than the younger one today not seeing the mess we created ouselves by being passive consumers at the expanse of the world itself...

Who created this world around us? Each one of us in the rich countries participate the older we are the more we are responsible...

Today’s generation, and I include you in that category, only whines that they’re not being spoonfed to their liking, and we are just beginning to see the results of that attitude in music and life in general. Keep whining and see what keeps happening

And accusing some generation of a problem which comes more from an inherited systematic totalitarian order globally imposed are childish observations anyway....

A clue: read about Rockfeller foundations education politic and medical politic HUGE impact to understand something, and quit blaming the young....

 

 

Young people inherited an hell pass on by impotent consumers who are now old...

We are responsible for the world around us especially after 40 years old, not teens....

Some people awake in Canada just now, and some alien power just push war measures on us....Then some mature people can awake and change this incoming hell in something else....

The most important analysis of Totalitarian global state about the way they are put in place was by Hannah Arendt and the mechanism described by her was : The incremental banality of day by day new small measures which appear tomorrow the new normal.....like a frog unconscious of the slowly boiling waters in the pan, freedom is eroded in all aspects of life: money, democracy, health, working conditions etc...

It is all around the world now this "new normality"....The "banality of evil"...

Mature people can change the world for the young who will go on now with them as leaders ....Not the reverse....In canada the war measures were deployed against working adults not against teen hippies....

This apply to education and music industry....

Music tastes are like any other tastes acquired tastes by education or lack of, by environment pressure, and by control of the media by corporate powers...

Thinking that our taste as adults are free is childish.... We all are the sum of the events in which we go through in our own personal history...

Only crocodiles think their taste is rightful and eternal...

I think that theBeatles have some "genius" for sure....

Anyone negating that is deaf....I apologize to you for my post if i was appearing  to  suggest the opposite...

But genius is a big word in a small world....Or a small word in a big world...

This is also like the marvellous Beatles genius, a true genius craftmanship:

 

 

If the Beatles are geniuses because of thirteen albums in few years what about Bob Dylan productions? He was alone and it is certainly comparable productions...

Anyway who know the 6 thousand works Telemann output?

The 500 hundred Vivaldi concertos?

And his more than one hundred operas?

People call genius anybody they like...

I prefer to call genius some others ....

I will call Bach a genius for example....

Sorry for the Beatles, i like them very much anyway....They will be the first astounded by the ignorance of their fans....

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is this old or new?

I dont give a damn....

It sound pretty much near the "eternal feminine soul " to me....How about Eve in the garden?

A thousand years old tradition sang nowadays how do we called that?

It is "jazz" from India to my ears....Not less beautiful than Ella Fitzgerald for sure....

Hypnotically beautiful ....

For this thread , i will change the title for: "old ears" listening always the same tunes are killing the eternally new.... 😁😊

By the way the population of India is : 1.38 billions, 4 times de US....

They have some musicians and some unknown instruments that are among the finest instruments ever created by mankind.......

How many americans confuse the simple veena, the rudra veena and the vichitra veena and the chitra veena , the sitar and the sarod?

Who know the hypnotical power of the sarangi?

I can goes on here about many thousand years old Indian "jazz" musicians.....

Dont upgrade, buy some "new" music.....😁😊

 

Distinction between old and new has not much meaning, save if we speak about money going in the pocket of living musicians for their living...

There is only great and greatest music, not old and new for me....

I had way too much absolute masterpieces to listen to non stop to search for the "new"...

I search for masterpices , old or new, the date make no differences...Nor the country or culture of origin....

 

Sorry but you are already dead perhaps... I am not...I am 70 year old and i NEED new listening experiments...

Discoveries is my bread and wine....Enlarging my soul...

Try erhu chinese music it will help you coming out of your little planet...This music has a heart of his own...

I like new musical instrument...

Try the rudra veena one of the most sacred instrument in India...

Tastes exist, i have my own, but tastes are LIMITED and secondary why?

Because they can be enlarged by listening experiences save for crocodiles and other consumers where they stay fixed till death....

Try a new life....By a Persian master....Instead of a rockstar or instead of Mozart...It is a suggestion for the young soul in this old body....

 

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I’m 70 years old - I do not need ’education about my own listening habits’.

At the end music like audio is not about "taste" but about education of our own listening habits...

I am not interested by people audio gear taste at all....Nor by their musical taste in itself but by the journey of people, their reason why they like such musician and such other one...

For the gear i dont give a damn..... 😁😊

There is too much basic good gear to chose only one....What i called embeddings working dimensions control in mechanical,electrical ans especially acoustical dimensions is the key...

The problem is how to use and implement the chosen gear in a room with acoustic....

And how to improve my inner working by music....

 

 

There is the aspect of music taste that is driven by consumerism exposition and publicity....

I never embarked much into that all my life.... For sure i was listening the Beatles ( a bit) and Bob Dylan when i was young for example, but i was way much into classical and choral music at 20 years old than in rock....

I was interested by Indian and Persian music as soon as the cd creation made it possible and more accessible...

Then there is music as consciousness exploration and commercially driven music....There is very good commercially driven music but much is not very good for me...i am not much in nostalgia because at 20 years old Bach was my God and others classical...

Then is Old music killing new music?

This question make sense only in a COMMERCIAL platform for a commercial platform...Anyway most musicians are not classical one or Jazz one in America...But in commercial music also old past very good singers and musicians make possible the new one...

In classical music Bach make room for Chopin make room for Liszt and Liszt make room for Scriabin ....

But i was never into ONLY popular music...Save the good one.... 😁😊

I prefer Jazz nowadays or world music to popular contemporary music but i am very specifically picky even in my jazz research....

Old music make place for better new music and kill the worst...

"Originality" at all cost kill all arts, a minimal respect for tradition keep it alive...

Money is a poison for many artists and for art in general....Or like any drug, the dose is all that matter, money may be a therapeutical drug also....

 

«The new must ressuscitate the old, and the old must give birth to the new»- Anonymus Musician

« Art evolution line is a spiral»-Anonymus esthetician

«Art is an inspired habit»- Anonymus artist

«Artists cannot be greater than their own craft save on TV»- Anonymus broadcaster

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