Is advice from a constant upgrader to be avoided


For a while now I've been reading these forums and to be honest i was thinking of leaving. I felt a bit out of depth given that it seems so many others have had so much experience through owning what seems to be tens of speakers, amplifiers, DACs etc etc and reading people buying and selling piece after piece after piece on the search for some sound.... 

When someone asks advice about a certain item it seems like half the audience have owned it and moved on and have a comment to make. I then read about someone buying an extremely expensive amp and deciding quickly to sell it because it doesn't sound right. Then someone else is on their fourth DAC in a year. 

So all these people have advice to give. What I'm wondering now is, is advice from a person who's never content, constantly changing their system, never living with a system for long enough, and have more money than patience, really the right person to take advice from? .

There seems fewer (maybe they're less vocal) people who buy gear and spend the time to appreciate it, and have maybe only had a very few systems in their lifetime. I think I'd rate their advice higher on the gear they know than the constant flipper/upgrader.

Is the constant flipper/upgrader always going to say that the gear they used to own was no good and they've now got better? Maybe their constant searching is because their ear is no good or they're addicted to the rush of opening a new box. 

Just because person X has owned a lot of equipment doesn't mean their advice is to be sought after, it could mean the exact opposite.

mid-fi-crisis

Showing 3 responses by big_greg

You definitely should not listen to people that have tried different things in their system(s) and can provide commentary and comparisons based on actually having owned those various pieces and lived with them for a while.

It’s much better to operate on conjecture... "well, I read this review..." or "I heard one at a show" or "it uses XXXX technology, so I think it would be better than XXXX". Or "I’m a fanboy of _______, they can’t be beat".

I have 4 systems. Things have changed a lot in my main system, it’s been an ongoing progression of trying different things. Rarely have I made a backwards move. I went from a VPI to an Acoustic Signature turntable recently and it was a sideways move. Lesson learned. Now I have a Sota Sapphire, which is a major improvement. The other 3 systems are pretty static at this point, other than perhaps an occassional hand-me-down from the main system.

So, let’s say you’re considering a couple of those tables, I can provide an informed commentary on what their strengths and weaknesses are and what I heard in my system. Your tastes may not be the same as mine, your room is different than mine, the rest of your gear is probably different than mine, so I can only provide so much help, but would you rather trust someone that has actually owned those pieces (or something very close) than conjecture?

Wouldn’t you rather listen to a "flipper" like me than someone who has only owned one or two pieces and says "________ is the best" because that’s all they’ve heard?

I recently sold my Modwright LS 100 (which for a long time I thought would be a "forever" piece). When one of the guys that was interested in it told me he had a Herron preamp, I told him he should stick with what he has. Why? Because that’s what I upgraded to from the LS100. Someone else bought it and for that person it will be a nice upgrade.

I'm still learning.  Hopefully I never stop learning.  What better way to learn than by broadening your horizons and trying different things.  I'm not the "audiophile authority".  I'm just one voice, and you should take many, including reviews, into consideration.  I often buy things without ever hearing it beforehand, based on extensive research. 

Filtering is important.  If someone has only owned one phono preamp, they may get filtered out.  If someone claims that whatever they're a fanboy of is vastly superior to other similar products, they get filtered out.  A lot of what I read in reviews gets filtered out.  

For the most part, I buy pre-owned gear and typically flip it for what or near what I paid for it.  I don't have an unlimited budget and I would like to reach a place where I am content with everything I have.  I'm pretty close, but it's been a journey.  Should I have just stopped at some point?  Or spent more initially without having any idea if it would be worth it? 

At the end of the day, I really just want to enjoy the experience of listening to music.  It's not about the gear, it's about the experience, but you need one to have the other.

One thing that I'll add to my earlier comments is that a lot of the experimentation I've done in my system and the knowledge I've acquired is a direct result of getting to know other enthusiasts and picking their brains and finding some people to mentor me. 

Join a local club if you can and then get to know the members that seem to really know their stuff on an individual level and spend time listening together.  Listen to their systems.  Ask a lot of "how" and "why" questions.  Invite them to listen to your system, and ask for honest feedback.

@astolfor I had a VPI Classic 2 with a Classic 3 tonearm, dual pivot option, and the Periphery Ring.  I went from that to an Acoustic Signature Wow XL.  Both were great tables.  I liked the smaller form factor of the Wow XL for my space and the motor was a little quieter and livelier than the VPI.  The VPI on the other hand was great for those less than flat records with the periphery clamp and I liked it better from an ergonomics standpoint.  Wow XL was a lot easier to set up.  Both are great tables in their price range (I bought both second hand).