interconnects


How important is the cable between the Preamp and Amp? I have been told and read that it is the last one to upgrade. You get a bigger up grade for the money if you do speaker cables or the interconnect between your Disc. player and Preamp? So if you have the chance to upgrade one of them and your Speaker cables and the interconnect between the Disc player and preamp are level above the Preamp-Amp connect. Would you upgrade the interconnect in the Disc player-Preamp to a higher level or would you do the Preamp-Amp interconnect to match the level of the other connection of Disc-Preamp? Yes to upgrade the Disc-Preamp interconnect would cost more than bring the Preamp Amp interconnect up to the levels of the rest.
Thanks for your impute
68pete
It varies from system to system. The only way to find out is to experiment.
I agree with ZD.

I would add that the importance of the cables between preamp and amp will tend to be greatest if the output impedance of the preamp is high (as it often is for many tube-based preamps), and their importance will also increase in proportion to the length of the cables, and their importance will generally tend to be greater if the cables are unbalanced as opposed to balanced.

The same considerations apply to the cables from disc player to preamp.

The importance of speaker cables will tend to be greatest if the impedance of the speakers is low, and it will increase in proportion to the length of the cable. If the speakers are electrostatics, choosing speaker cables having low inductance will also tend to be important, especially if the cables are long. The importance of the speaker cables MIGHT also tend to increase if the amplifier uses significant amounts of feedback and/or has particularly wide bandwidth, and (for dynamic speakers) if the woofers are particularly sensitive to damping factor.

Hope that helps. Regards,
-- Al
Generally, I'm a skeptic on the benefits of insanely expensive cables, power or interconnect. However, I remember the first time I upgraded my CD interconnect from the manufacturer- supplied one to an Audioquest Ruby (modestly priced). It was a huge difference! Since then I have used KimberKables and Tara Labs for all interconnects in my system.

Are ICs important? Yes.

Do quality ICs (and all of ICs, speaker and power cables in general) make a difference? yes ... and the effects are much more graphic as one moves up the equipment food chain.

But the pre-amp to amp IC is just one link in the array. The entire IC - speaker - power cable array matters ...big-time.

I cannot agree that your notion of the ICs between the pre-amp and amp can be allowed to fall behind as the laggard in the chain .... just as with quality-build source versus a cheap alternative ..... garbage in = garbage out.

Again, the effects are also exponential as one moves up the gear quality (and price) food chain....full stop.
How important is the cable between the Preamp and Amp?
68pete
08-27-15

Not important at all. I've been running with no interconnect cable at all between preamp and amp for about a year now, and couldn't be happier. ;^)
YMMV.

Cheers,
John
How important is the cable between the Preamp and Amp? It can be very important. This is a matter of synergy. Trial and error will give you the answer for your system.
+1 Jmcgrogan2. Without a cord between amp and pre I have the quietest background noise I have ever had in 40 yrs. Now I got that licked, if I can just get the cd player to turn on.
try some Purist audio Design cables .
Very Very quiet.
I am using there ultimate USB from Jriver pc and their Dominus digital to the Lampizator Big 6 Dac and Venustas from the DAC to pre.Pre is Anthem D1
I have never been completely satisfied with various cables in this setup ... until now.
They are not cheap, but IMO well worth the price .
I am finally off of the cable train.
I used the Cable Company for demos
it varies from system to sytem. However the most importart cable that needs to be replaced, its not IC but the power cords. Also a nice power conditioner will do even more good in your system
68Pete - you have received a wealth of good info from various posters - Almag's observations should be of particular interest and made note of.

A practice I have always adopted is to try to ensure the best cables are in place in the following order
1. Speaker cables first
2. next - pre-amp to amp
3. then source to pre-amp
4. finally - TT to phono (a source)

The reason for what some people may think of as bass-ackwards is because - if the speaker cables are not the best quality - they will not reveal all of the benefits of upgrading an interconnect.

This was a theory until recently - when I installed an extremely good IC from my phono to my amp. The full benefit could not be heard until I upgraded the speaker cables to a pair of a similar quality, then the full benefits of this IC upgrade could really be heard.

But I stress - these were extremely high end cables with exraordinary resolution capabilities.

So to answer your question simply - I consider the IC between the pre-amp and amp to be second only to speaker cables in their "level of importance".

Having said that - I have an integrated amp, so I have no first hand experience with this actual type of IC. :-)

But wire is wire :-)

Regards...
Difference is too huge. Eg: normal interconnect vs Neotech vs AES cable.

Eliminating it would be the best.