Impressions of Coincident Speakers
Wanted - Impressions of Coincident Super Victory III
Would like to find individuals owning or hearing the Coincident Super Victory III (or other similar Coincident Speaker Technologies speaker) and / or the Devore Super 9 speaker.
I am in the market for a new pair of high sensitivity / high-flat impedance curve speakers with a nominal impedance of 8 ohms or greater. 1st order crossover, highly dampened woofer, etc.
I’m researching Devore Super 9’s and Coincident Super Victory III, so if you can describe tonal accuracy, treble and bass specifics, scale, stage/image, coherency, etc would very much be grateful for you taking the time to add to this forum your views on these speakers. It will mean a trip to SFO to listen to the Devore Super 9’s and since the Super Victory III’s are sold factory direct, my only option to purchase of these speakers would not include listening to them, buying unheard (so to speak). I’m wondering if those 12" woofers are more tame then what a sealed subwoofer would normally provide. My current speakers follow the base line with well defined and articulate notes; and thats what I am looking for. I have neighbors, and knowing I may be disturbing them with thundering room pressurizing bass distracts from my listening pleasure. I have an REL R305 sub for those times when I want to feel the kick of a bass drum and need the option of turning off subterraining bass. Coincident specs the speaker goes to 28Hz and the woofer is well damped for tube amplification. Any views / info regarding bass of these speakers would be very helpful in my selection between the above reference Devore and Coincident
My current speakers are Sonist Concerto 4, Genertaion 2, driven by 30 Watt P/Pull Class "A" (mostly) EL34 (Ars Sonus Filarmonia, with Jupiur Copper Foil / Bees Wax coupling caps)
Front baffles of speakers are approx 5’ from front wall, 9’ apart tweeter to tweeter, 3’ from side wall (center of tweeter to side wall. I sit 10 to 12 feet from front baffle of speaker. Opens up to kitchen behind where I sit, about 22 feet to wall behind my seat. So basically the entire area is 15’ wide X 37’ long, speakers on the narrower wall (15’)
I have purchased a LTA ZOTL 40 Integrated W/ EL34 Mullard tube upgrade. The LTA will be the primary amp in the new set-up.
Thnx
Brad
That's good to hear charles. I can't find any new reviews which have measurements. Only an older sound-stage review of the coincident super eclipse, where the measurements again look pretty awful. I don't think measurements are always needed, but I do think they can shed some light on the performance of a speaker. |
Stereo Mojo gave the Super Victory II their product of the year award. Listed below is the link to the review leading to this award. In my mind I have no question regarding there SQ , The Coincident line has been proven to match very well with OTL amps. The owner / designer of Atma-sphere OTL Amps favors this speaker, and I got to say Ralfs expertise is light years beyond the average joe here on AG (I guess I should only speak for myself) Its more about the whether this speaker is a suitable choice for the restrictions my listening area imposes and the resulting speaker / room interactions. Coincident Speaker Technology Victory Review: Bound For Sound For me, how some speakers may work in my room are obvious. For example a Harbeth Monitor would be no problem. On the other hand a Magnepan Magnaplanar 3.7; big problem.
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Brad, No problem! Recent Coincident designs are anything but colored. I avoided box speakers like the plague until I bought my Triumph Extreme II monitors. I listen to a lot of live music, or at least I did until I moved to the middle of nowhere, and I could not find a box speaker I could live with at any kind of reasonable price until the Coincidents. I might question the designer's business model but never his ears. There is not a single piece of Coincident gear that I have heard that is not true to tone. That includes the electronics. At best, coincident gear is capable of sublime beauty. If I were in the market for new speakers, which I am not, I think Audiokinesis and NSMT 100 speakers would be on my short list. I'd travel to audition, and have long conversations with both designers before purchasing. I've talked to both of them in the past, and trust both of them to give me a straight answer on room requirements and compatibility of ancillaries. The AK speakers are nice to look at. High WAF, I would think. I've really just put too much effort into optimizing the SVIIs and optimizing the room around them. You get to a certain point and the chance that a change is going to make things worse gets pretty high. But you know how it is, we are all perfectionists, so on occasion I long for more refinement in the midrange. |
Bill, very interesting how you succinctly summarized Coincident ’s greatest strength (And they do many things well) . Purity and truth of tone/timbre. As you well know I own the Statement Line Stage, Frankenstein 300b and speakers. They do in fact share this trait. Israel Blume does rightfully deserve credit for this accomplishment. "Capable of sublime beauty " this has been my experience. Well said Bill.👍 Charles |
