Do not try and bend the spoon. That is impossible. Instead try and see the truth: there is no spoon.
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Blue Jamaican Blue Reggae…….
Everything be fine……
“ none can free us, save our own minds “ Bob M ( RIP ) |
If you had better cables, this wouldn't happen to you. ;)
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I have been pondering using a Shunyata PC on the Espresso maker….. |
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What if I’m down on my wife? |
My imagination runs wild….. |
Didn’t expect these responses.
but…
have at it! |
Just glad I don't have the OP's problem. |
We cannot forgot the sound if we are under the threshold of a very bad timbre reproduction...
If we are slightly over it it become possible...
Alas! unlike when i was a child i dont want to simply listen to music but also to listen to it in the better possible conditions...
The OP is a spiritual person or a musician, for them it is more easy to forgot the sound... |
I’ve been down on the farm, down on the beach, down on the corner, down on my luck, down in my basement and down on my neighbor. But I’ve never, ever been down on my system. |
+1 MC listen to the music and appreciate it don't trey to hear things that are not there, no spoon just listen without the spoon in the mix.
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For myself going down in quality from $100 k systems to $30-$40 k for similar performance is the challenge .I am now semi retired
and now have to plan for big purchases like loudspeakers next
but even $20 k can take me over a year to save . You can get spoiled and circumstances for many reasons can change . It’s now a challenge ,at least I still rebuild quality Xovers and know about modding which saves me literally $1000 s . |
Expectation bias is at play, when you hear something at $100,000 you expect to be completely whooped but my not be. I find if I listen to a system I cannot afford mine sounds better than I thought. |
I suspect the OP has a synergy issue or room issue |
@slaw I agree. As for me, I’m only conscious of the system when I make a change. Typically lasts an hour (I’ve done well in my choices so far) and then it’s just sweet music. |
Not me. Just finished a 4 hour listening session. The system sounds better than any system I have ever heard. We are almost ready to open the listening room here in New Jersey.
Happy Listening. |
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Do not try and bend the spoon. That is impossible. Instead try and see the truth: there is no spoon."
This.
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What if I’m down on my wife? ... Instead try and see the truth: there is no spoon. |
Sadly I recall Uri Geller and his fake tricks. |
“If your down on your system…”.
Interesting use of YOUR. In the UK when we abbreviate YOU ARE we write YOU’RE. Maybe in the US you have lost the apostrophe and the ’E’? Or is it simply a mistake? |
Mistake. If you're down on your system it does not matter. You have work to do or money to spend. Music and the technicalities of reproduction are two entirely separate issues. You can love the music but hate the sound.
With the judicious application of force you can bend any spoon. |
Interesting that it comes down to the cables, LOL. |
Duckworp,
Mistake. Generally very careful about punctuation. |
@ mahgister
I don't think so. I was a musician (in that I no longer play trumpet professionally or for any other reason) and I feel that was a help rather than hindrance to listening to sound rather than "music".
Playing an improvised solo was one thing but being part of note combinations the rest of the band was looking at was rather mechanical.
Pleasant to be part of but mechanical none the less.
I enjoyed the "sound" of every note structure combination.
It is probably why I went into selling audio equipment in my Don Quixote quest to reproduce "sound" as realistically as possible. |
Take a deep breath and try to get into the music you’ve selected. After all, you’ve hopefully selected it for the music itself and not just for the sound. That’s where the payoff is. I agree with the statement. Its about the music. Yet I wonder if the music has enough allurement to pull them out of the sound they hear. Then too, it may be that they are reacting to the music itself. You cannot divorce the sound & the music. The music is the sound & the sound is the music I generally don’t say much about a persons choice of music. Yet I often wonder how anyone can get into what passes as audiophile approved music. It seems apparent that this music is approved based solely on its sound qualities and not its musical quality. Yet I must say that if you truly like it, then so be it. You may not like my selections. But they are my selections, not audiophile approved by the mfgs & magazines who want to show off equipment with sonic qualities |
@ mahgister
I don’t think so. I was a musician (in that I no longer play trumpet professionally or for any other reason) and I feel that was a help rather than hindrance to listening to sound rather than "music".
Playing an improvised solo was one thing but being part of note combinations the rest of the band was looking at was rather mechanical.
Pleasant to be part of but mechanical none the less.
I enjoyed the "sound" of every note structure combination.
It is probably why I went into selling audio equipment in my Don Quixote quest to reproduce "sound" as realistically as possible. I concur completely with your post... My point was not about sound versus music... We always listen to sound and music together in an unbreakable unity where we can distinguish the two for sure... My point was about the way to go from "sound" of the gear to "music" in the room, using acoustic.... |
If your system is great,and the music isn't,fire up a big fat one!
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My point was about the way to go from "sound" of the gear to "music" in the room, using acoustic....
I am forever plagued .
That being said, our salon studios were set up to obtain the best sound possible with room treatment,
Then, and to this day, I cannot get by the "sound’ part to get to the music part no matter what the waves are doing.
Even in the band, didn’t hear music as much as I heard "notes".
It’s maddening.
I wonder if selling the stuff or being a musician ruined me. |
I wonder if selling the stuff or being a musician ruined me. I spoke to many musicians in my life and they are ALL different... Like all people are different... Music is not acoustical sound, nor written notes, it is consciousness ectasy beholding meaning .... Nothing less.... Acoustic and music knowledge are roads not the destination....But you know it already... My best to you.... |
I'm totally down with my system...
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I am up with my system. It and the music rejuvenates me.
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*S* Like friend Mahgister, I'm down with the sounds of these objects I've amassed for that purpose...
Some may think "What? With THAT?!", and lapse into snide giggles.
HO, I'm a fan of 'run what you brung' and Enjoy....the point of it all, after all.
One can nuance and knit the means to accomplish their personal 'chase' to taste, budget, neighbors, or ones' individual sanity levels....
Or just turn it down from 11, and chill. Or not. ;) |
I remember when my rig wasn't playing nice. I was always listening for what wasn't there and it was fatiguing. I eventually got it right and it's been a joy ever since. Every record sounds wonderful. As it's in the basement, I'm down with my system.
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There is something about the human condition that makes us get bored as time transpires. Before my injury that left me a quadriplegic I used to mountain bike. That’s what actually made me a quadriplegic was a freak accident with a tree. But anyways, before the accident my entire life was mountain bikes which was the perfect hobby because you’re always breaking stuff or replacing stuff because of the dirt and riding habits like jumping off big rocks etc.
Generally with audio , things don’t wear out very fast Or ever. As time passes by you get used to the sound then the boredom sets in. I don’t know that there’s any way to solve it, maybe you accidentally spill some coffee in your preamp? That sounds like a very interesting topic to use for a question on the forum, “ how many ways can you accidentally destroy a piece of audio equipment“ …ha! |
When judging my system do I use Mgf.list price ... or what I paid for it...lol |
