I went from Class D to Luxman A/AB - And most of what you think is wrong


Hi everyone,

As most of you know, I’m a fan of Class D. I have lived with ICEPower 250AS based amps for a couple of years. Before that I lived with a pair of Parasound A21s (for HT) and now I’m listening to a Luxman 507ux.


I have some thoughts after long term listening:
  • The tropes of Class D having particularly bad, noticeable Class D qualities are all wrong and have been for years.
  • No one has ever heard my Class D amps and gone: "Oh, wow, Class D, that’s why I hate it."
  • The Luxman is a better amp than my ICEPower modules, which are already pretty old.

I found the Class D a touch warm, powerful, noise free. Blindfolded I cannot tell them apart from the Parasound A21s which are completely linear, and run a touch warm due to high Class A operation, and VERY similar in power output.


The Luxman 507 beats them both, but no amp stands out as nasty sounding or lacking in the ability to be musical and involving.


What the Luxman 507 does better is in the midrange and ends of the spectrum. It is less dark, sweeter in the midrange, and sounds more powerful, almost "louder" in the sense of having more treble and bass. It IS a better amplifier than I had before. Imaging is about the same.


There was one significant operational difference, which others have confirmed. I don't know why this is true, but the Class D amps needed 2-4 days to warm up. The Luxman needs no time at all. I have no rational, engineering explanation for this. After leaving the ICEPower amps off for a weekend, they sounded pretty low fi. Took 2 days to come back. I can come home after work and turn the Luxman on and it sounds great from the first moment.


Please keep this in mind when evaluating.


Best,

E
erik_squires
@georgehifi 

With all due respect, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Hello all,

I only have one room for A/V enjoyment.  My amplification must serve 7.1 surround and 2.1 stereo.  I think the sound emanating from my HK is no compromise in either circumstance.  I just hope HK is not going flush it all down the toilet as they appear to be migrating to "lifestyle" (aka Sonos, Bose, etc.) mediocrity.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gadget-reviews/harman-kardon-avr-3700-review/

" Its clean power delivery and dynamic capabilities were quite impressive for a class D receiver, and its rich, powerful, and refined sound reminded us of what a good, audiophile-quality amplifier sounds like."  

I like what I have and will probably remain so until I get another bug up my butt telling me I need to upgrade.
@georgehifi what class D amps have you heard?
Many as I’m in the industrie, the only one that impressed so far has been the BelCanto 600M’s, but only when they drove a very expensive two way, that had a very benign 6ohm load in the upper mid highs, because they used I believe the top Raven ribbon tweeter. The same amp let me down severely, when it tried to drive my highly modded ML Monoliths which has the latest same as the Neolith panels.

Cheers George
you started the personal slurs again

You meant to type "provided  historical context."